Environment committee  You can get that directly from the Little Rouge corridor management plan, the Rouge national urban action plan—

Environment committee  The number I am aware of is about 1,700, but that's from the Rouge Park Alliance's unanimous report.

Environment committee  I'm not the one talking about it. This is the law of the land right now. It's not me; it's the Rouge Park Alliance; it's the provincial governments; it's the greenbelt plan; it's the Rouge North plan that was put in place when you were in the provincial government and when the ma

Environment committee  That's why the province won't transfer the land, because you are ignoring their policies.

Environment committee  It's definitely urbanization. Markham just expanded the urban envelope by 11 square kilometres, and 120 kilometres of Markham's 200 is already urbanized. That's the finest class 1 agricultural land. We fought it every step of the way.

Environment committee  The greatest impact on an area like the Rouge is habitat fragmentation. Studies done in the current park ranked almost all of the habitat as poor to fair; followed by invasive species; followed by external pressures from urbanization and public use. Those are the greatest threats

Environment committee  Yes, sir.

Environment committee  Thank you for that question, Mr. Calandra. I believe that what Mr. Duguid is doing is.... There's been 24 years of intensive stakeholder and public planning—

Environment committee  Mr. Duguid is essentially upholding the plans developed over the last 24 years with huge public and stakeholder—

Environment committee  No. The consultation is already encoded in law, Mr. Calandra. Your government—

Environment committee  Sure.

Environment committee  Could I answer that question, Mr. Calandra?

Environment committee  Yes, Mr. Calandra, I probably did say that.

Environment committee  I think that some of the people who are here today, like Jay Reesor, or many of the other farmers who have been on the land for a long time, could be considered heritage farmers. I think that if we developed a list of people in the park who were expropriated by the Conservative g

Environment committee  Well, I think that we also want to encourage new—