Public Safety committee  Sorry.

Public Safety committee  The prison needle exchange is a CSC initiative. Actually, it's in keeping with the broader Government of Canada harm reduction strategy. Before we implemented it, we did speak to our union partners. Actually, at this point it's a very slow implementation. It's only at two sites, at Atlantic and Grand Valley institutions.

Public Safety committee  In the healing lodges, as in any facility, let's say if there's an event, yes, it's possible that women will bring their children.

Public Safety committee  Do you mean at healing lodges?

Public Safety committee  I do not have that information today.

Public Safety committee  No cases where there was an incident.

Public Safety committee  You are asking whether our programs...

Public Safety committee  Yes, and obviously in terms of the programs we offer, that's part of it as well. We have programs that we offer, a family violence program, so in our healing lodges, no, I don't know of any incidents that have occurred.

Public Safety committee  I know. I have a hard time with that. I'm part of that category. Of the 20% who are in custody who are between the ages of 50 and 64, less than 1% are women, and 3.7% are indigenous offenders. Indigenous offenders tend to be younger. Although 16.1% of the Canadian population is over 65 years of age, in CSC it's 5% who are 65 or over, of whom fewer than 1% are women and 3% are indigenous.

Public Safety committee  I have just have one more sentence.

Public Safety committee  Absolutely.

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Thank you for that, and I remember I also responded to that. As part of my mandate letter, I've been asked to look at governance. It is something I'm going to do, and that's going to be part of it.

Public Safety committee  First, thank you for that. I do want to recognize the staff who are here. In my 35-year career with CSC, one thing I can say is that the staff in the Correctional Service are passionate and believe in what they do. It's an incredibly challenging job. I am thinking of our correctional officers who are our first-line responders when there are incidents in the institutions.

Public Safety committee  Thank you, again. Just to put it in context, I have a few statistics here. Those offenders who are incarcerated between the ages of 50 and 64, because 50 is considered to be aging, and it's—