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Government Operations committee  Volume III of public accounts will have a detailed listing of the government's different liabilities and obligations. We would go back to that and extract that information for you.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  Thank you, Mr. Blaney. There are two parts there. First of all, with respect to requirements from RCMP in vote 1, their operating, versus vote 5, their capital expenditures, every organization that has capital requirements above $5 million has a separate capital vote, and that is a starting point.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  That's a terrific question, and that analysis was part of the study going forward. There are simply some aspects of public service work that are unique to the public service and it is hard to find training at universities or external third parties, but where that training does exist, the public service does avail itself of that.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  The funding provided in budget 2016 to the Canada Revenue Agency to enhance compliance is a result of what I believe is a proven track record at the agency to utilize investments made by the government to enhance compliance and ensure stronger compliance with Canada's tax laws.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  It varies by their business line. Of course, there can be diminishing returns as we make more and more investments in these areas, but the short answer to the simple question is there evidence to support this: there is. It's part of every budget ask from every department. They need to be able to demonstrate a result or some value to the government.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  That's a very complex question. In response to an earlier question, I think a starting point would be to get a listing of the P3 investments that have been made. Then with that listing the committee, myself included, would be in a better position to speak to the value of that tool in each case.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  This in fact came up in a tangential way this morning, during the minister's appearance, and I think it is important to reiterate this point. The estimates present the aggregate of the appropriation requirements of all entities in the Canadian public service, but with respect to Parliament, and that is to say the House of Commons, the Senate, and the protective service that is co-managed by the two offices, the Treasury Board Secretariat has no line of sight and no authority over those requirements.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  They respect our timelines and our requirements in terms of reporting, but the actual details around their requirements—unlike everything else presented in the estimates—those are not presented to Treasury Board ministers for review or approval, and therefore we have no insight.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  The Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner, like every other organization in these main estimates, will produce results, objectives, and indicators in support of their program. Typically they would set targets for the timeliness of their response. Obviously, they don't have a target for how many complaints they want to receive, but they are responsive to those complaints and would generally commit to resolving those within specific periods of time.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  Okay. Marcia is also reminding me that this office also reports directly to Parliament so again it's not possible for me—

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  I could give you a specific example about the type of training that the school provides. Public service executives have to have a certain level of skill in areas like ethics and values, service delivery and staff management. Different skills are required at each level, including some that are more detailed and more focused.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  We have not, at the Treasury Board Secretariat, done that. We have not been asked to do that. In checking with Transport Canada, we have been told that they themselves have looked into this and they've established that their funding has not been used for the purpose of purchasing land.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  It is a provincial project, and my understanding here is that for the realignment of Pinkie Road and the construction of the short west Regina bypass, that work is intended to increase safety, reduce traffic delays, and increase the processing efficiency with respect to the international and inter-regional transportation activities.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  That's right. In this instance the funds forecast for this fiscal year are in support of previously approved programs, or programs for which they are already doing a screening to determine the viability of P3 as an investment tool. So these funds are in a sense committed, because they're tied to specific activities and projects of P3 Canada.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan

Government Operations committee  That's an interesting question. I wouldn't want to speculate on the disposition of any organization. This isn't a fund. It's a stand-alone organization. There's a machinery-of-government issue here, which is the Prime Minister's prerogative. I think we heard clearly from the minister this morning that, although this is no longer a mandatory screen, the numbers suggest that there has been value in using P3 as a tool in specific instances.

April 19th, 2016Committee meeting

Brian Pagan