National Defence committee  This one is outside of what I did. Whatever I could tell you about Kandahar would be opinion and not necessarily fact. Of course the plan changed. The insurgency developed to the extent that it did while we were there, so we, the Canadian Forces, have adapted to deal with that threat as it has presented.

National Defence committee  The Afghan-Pakistani border is a very difficult issue. I know that at the political level, ministers of more than one ministry of the Government of Canada have done what ministers do, in terms of dealing with the Government of Pakistan. I know that the Canadian ambassador has done what Canadian ambassadors do, in dealing with the Government of Pakistan.

National Defence committee  I'll clarify first: the Canadian PRT is in Kandahar. What we have in Kabul are staff officers at the International Security Assistance Force's headquarters and in the coalition headquarters. But to help ANA, the Afghan National Army, and the Afghan national police reform, we have 15 Canadians led by a major—mostly young officers and NCOs, non-commissioned officers—who are at a place called the Afghan National Training Centre.

National Defence committee  The record speaks for itself. The Canadian Forces in Kabul—both with battle group, as part of ISAF at one point, and then in the later days with the reconnaissance squadron and some engineers—we played our part in what's called the Kabul Multinational Brigade. That's part of the International Security Assistance Force.

National Defence committee  We didn't have day-to day-control over anybody's dollars or even insight into anybody's dollars. But they're there, and.... We'll put the researchers to work.

National Defence committee  It would be hard for us to know. We were working as the mechanics on this thing, okay?

National Defence committee  And again, you'd have to....

National Defence committee  I can't do that.

National Defence committee  The group you're referring to are auxiliary police. They are from the national level, a response to a need to enhance the amount of Afghan local security that's available. I shouldn't speak for them, but I know them. There's not a professional Canadian officer or senior non-commissioned officer who is going to put the lives of his or her troops in the hands of untrained young people with AK-47s.

National Defence committee  No, they are an auxiliary police force.

National Defence committee  The compact is the political deal between the world community and the Afghans, sanctioned by the UN, so it's hard to say in any particular province. But ANDS is the comprehensive plan. There are programs, which are part of ANDS, that are being moved into Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan, and those other provinces, as the security situation permits.

National Defence committee  Per capita.

National Defence committee  Correct. That's internationally, and those dollars are from the Century Foundation.

National Defence committee  Correct.

National Defence committee  Okay, sir, I'll try. I guess I'll start with the first one. I'm obviously a biased responder to this. This team was based on an idea. What do I think of using military planners in this kind of role? A plan is a plan is a plan. We have a very rigorous professional development system, such that from the day you're a young officer cadet, whether army, navy, or air force, you learn how to plan.