Human Resources committee  That's right.

Human Resources committee  If they're not entitled to employment insurance, then they would have to resort to—

Human Resources committee  --alternate employment.

Human Resources committee  No, sir. I wouldn't want to punish anyone, and employers don't want to punish anyone either.

Human Resources committee  Yes, that is a layoff--

Human Resources committee  No, I'm not preventing them from looking for work.

Human Resources committee  I don't think I do. I've said in my presentation that I didn't.

Human Resources committee  I think that's fundamentally a statement that my friend is making--not necessarily asking a question--

Human Resources committee  What's that?

Human Resources committee  Okay.

Human Resources committee  Well, I appreciate that you've brought up the situation at Lebel-sur-Quévillon, because I have a fair amount of information on and knowledge of that dispute. As part of my working career, as a matter of fact, since 1984 I've had responsibility for coordinating collective bargaining activities in the pulp and paper industry in eastern Canada, that is, from the Manitoba border through to Newfoundland.

Human Resources committee  In addition to that, they had high labour costs for that mill, which--

Human Resources committee  I think that adopting a bill like this will advantage the unions and disadvantage companies.

Human Resources committee  I'm not sure that I understand the question.

Human Resources committee  So you're talking about the details of the collective bargaining issues that were associated with the Domtar strike? Is that what you're--