Industry committee  But it will be shut.

Industry committee  That's correct. Either way, now or later.

Industry committee  Yes, either way, now or later.

Industry committee  Well, our preference would be to get it now, right? Our preference would be to maybe not pay for it now, but to get it.

Industry committee  Shell will continue to provide product to its existing customers. They have made some arrangements. I don't know what those are, but we've discussed that they were in the process of doing that. So they've made arrangements for alternate sources of supply.

Industry committee  The refinery will not be operational past September. It will not be.

Industry committee  No, it's because the turnaround was not done, and Shell's safety standards and probably Delek's own engineering professionals would agree--

Industry committee  To infinity. It hasn't been done.

Industry committee  Those are really questions for Shell, but Shell had a couple of deadlines, I guess, based on pressure it got from parties present and extended that. But at some point in time, if you haven't ordered all of the equipment and made all the engineering preparations for a turnaround, it gets to the point where safety standards would require that you have to shut.

Industry committee  By way of clarification, I'd just like to say that what you talked about earlier, continuing the discussions...the discussions are over, as our press release would state. We're prepared to recommence new discussions, if you will. I'm not saying anything contrary to our press release.

Industry committee  We believe the reinvestment of substantial amounts of the cashflow from operations into making those moneys available and making those repairs is what would be required. So the money we'd make would get reinvested in that asset to get over the hurdle of this $800 million that needed to be spent.

Industry committee  Correct.

Industry committee  Is that question addressed to me?

Industry committee  There was never a discussion of a specific dollar amount on the retail stations. There was discussion of a formula upon which a purchase price for those retail locations would be based. We offered, in writing, $150 million. We understood from Shell that they believed there was still a significant gap in value.

Industry committee  The short answer is yes and yes. That's dependent upon some financial assistance from municipalities, the financing that we organize. But of the $600 million, let's call it, that Shell would receive in the sale of the refinery business, based on our discussions with members of the committee here and our own resources, I think we thought that was very doable.