Environment committee  I would say that they reflect the general interest in conservation objectives that we hear about at the regional and local levels, as Philippe said. Certainly opportunities have been identified by groups such that this can contribute to the reconciliation agenda of the government in the sense that there may be opportunities for monitoring of MPAs, especially if they're located in areas that are next to indigenous communities, for example.

Environment committee  Yes. Just to clarify, the plans you're referring to are broader than just for marine conservation. The plans that first nations in British Columbia and the Province of B.C. developed were more of a marine spatial planning exercise, which includes a layer of conservation to it, but it is by no means exclusively about marine conservation.

Environment committee  To elaborate a bit on your question on how we go about establishing marine protected areas, in Sue's opening remarks she referred to broad policy frameworks that were established. For marine protected areas, that was in 2011, where the Canadian council of fisheries and aquaculture ministers approved the MPA network policy.

Environment committee  I'll try to answer the first part of the question, with regard to the management monitoring and reporting, especially on ecological integrity. As Kevin Stringer explained in his speech, our objectives under the Oceans Act for MPAs, for example, are slightly different. We don't necessarily have the representativeness and visitor experience part as our mandate; for us it's really about biodiversity and the protection of the marine environment.

Environment committee  Just with regard to the question from the member in terms of increasing the intensity of effort, there obviously has been ongoing dialogue in terms of the establishment of that particular MPA, and part of the dialogue is related to not only the question of intensity of effort but also the benefits of marine protected areas and the potential for spillover effect for a particular species.