Canada-China Relations committee  As far as I know, we've learned from our mistakes. Our colleagues at the Public Health Agency of Canada have been very rigorous in implementing these lessons to plug some of the safety loopholes that existed. To the best of my knowledge, these practices no longer exist. On the

Canada-China Relations committee  One of the significant by-products, if you will, of Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been a rapprochement between the People's Republic of China and Russia. We're talking about two dictatorships. We're talking about two authoritarian systems that collaborate because they see an i

Canada-China Relations committee  The way I'll try to answer this question is to say that of course, as Mr. Erskine-Smith mentioned, we look at the issues through a national security prism. We make an effort to share our knowledge, our expertise and our concerns with our colleagues to make sure that one of the fi

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes, absolutely. As I mentioned, the evolution of the threat activity of the PRC and other countries against Canada has been such that we had to change our approach at CSIS. We have to collect, very covertly, intelligence and secrets, which the government—Parliament, essentially

Canada-China Relations committee  I don't know the details of the strategy, which is spread over a 25‑year period. However, I do know that government strategies of this nature are implemented over several years. However, we always try to manage the most important threats as quickly as possible. What was your fir

Canada-China Relations committee  Absolutely, yes. If our security screening work or our intelligence gathering work tells us that any individual in Canada is involved in a program being run by China or another country, we will intervene.

Canada-China Relations committee  I will reiterate what I said earlier in the sense that in these types of cases, we do an assessment of the generic nature of those talent programs. That's one thing. Then at the request of the agency, we do the screening of very specific individuals and provide that assessment, t

Canada-China Relations committee  They have to be very transparent. That is one of the key issues at play here.

Canada-China Relations committee  I would say that having entities listed by the government as problematic is a very welcome approach. It speaks to Mr. Fragiskatos' question earlier about how we work with people. Giving them more information about what might be appropriate or not is very important. In this case,

Canada-China Relations committee  I think this chronology is very instructive because now, with what we know in 2024, it's easy to look back at the events of the day and try, with the knowledge we have.... I was talking earlier today to my colleagues who are responsible for the screening branch, looking at thos

Canada-China Relations committee  That's a question I honestly would have to reflect upon. In the last number of years, the specific ownership of those resources has not been as much at the top of our agenda. I will reflect on this, Mr. Desjarlais, and may bring back something more intelligent to share with you

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes.

Canada-China Relations committee  As I mentioned, we are working extremely closely with not just our Five Eyes partners, but a number of other extremely sophisticated intelligence services around the world. CSIS has over 300 relationships around the world with intelligence services, and this is one of the very si

Canada-China Relations committee  Because of the organized systematic approach and capabilities of the PRC, we assess that the PRC is the most significant espionage threat against our country. Mr. Chong will know that the dynamic is somewhat similar to foreign interference in the sense that you have a continuum

Canada-China Relations committee  The question is interesting because you're looking at two things. One is the control and ownership of a fixed asset. You also talked about the development of know-how and innovation. I would make a distinction between something you can control, which is the asset.... You cannot,