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Public Safety committee  The office of legal affairs at INTERPOL is obviously at headquarters. Full-time INTERPOL employees conduct the vetting, based on the INTERPOL screening process.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  I would answer that in a couple of ways, I suppose. One, the executive committee is mandated to oversee both the ongoing operations of INTERPOL and the will of the general assembly. With that, of course, where a country has lost the confidence of the executive committee and perhaps the general assembly, there are processes in place to expulse, if you will, a country from INTERPOL.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  No. I'm not.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  I haven't done an assessment of that. I would suggest that, from a Canadian perspective, it is not being used as a political tool. We are respecting the terms and conditions with which we are engaged with INTERPOL. There are 194 different countries. There may be the opportunity for 194 different pieces of analysis to be done on how those countries adhere to those rules, but I can't speak to the way the other countries handle it.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  INTERPOL uses a notice system. There are a number of different notices: red, yellow, black, green and so on. The red notice is the one I suppose that's been memorialized in movies and TV, and is the most well known. Essentially, it is put out to seek an arrest. If a country seeks to put a red notice on the system, they do an application to the headquarters in Lyon.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  If you don't mind, I'll answer you in English to make myself understood. The office of legal affairs of INTERPOL in Lyon is the one that reviews the requests. There's quite an arduous application process for somebody to put a red notice on. I won't provide comment on individual countries, but I will say that the INTERPOL system and the constitution under which it operates are meant to mitigate the individual differences of countries and create an even playing field, if you will, for criminal investigations.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  I think the international community might view it differently, but I'm not sure. We'd have to assess that if we knew all the facts of a certain case, if it presented itself.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  I don't think it would be appropriate for me to talk about a Chinese investigation into one of their own police officers. I can say that the person was detained and arrested in China. That's a Chinese national issue to deal with, notwithstanding that the person was the president for INTERPOL, which is an international organization.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  If the person had not been Chinese...?

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  You might have to paint a bit of a scenario for me to be able to appreciate the nature of your question. This is a Chinese national—

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  Right. I guess I would have a question, just to seek clarity on your question. Are you suggesting that if a non-Chinese national went, as you say, missing—I don't believe the person went missing—that the person was detained in China?

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  No, I don't get a sense that the public has less confidence in INTERPOL, if that's what you're referring to. I think the machinations of INTERPOL are governed by a strict set of guidelines and rules, and when those rules are adhered to—as of course we do in Canada—I think it is a very effective mechanism and remains an effective mechanism.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  There are a number of different scenarios that could present themselves. Generally speaking, if travelling Canadians find themselves in trouble in a foreign country, there are United Nations conventions that would engage the consular services of Global Affairs. I won't speak in any detail about their engagement and how they do it and why they do it.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

C/Supt Scott Doran

Public Safety committee  Good morning, Mr. Chair and committee members. My name is Scott Doran, and as the Director General of International Specialized Services within the RCMP's Federal Policing Program, I'm pleased to be here today to speak to you about the RCMP's engagement with INTERPOL. My colleague Sergeant Ross Cameron hails from the Ontario Provincial Police but works for the RCMP at INTERPOL and has been working there for about six years.

November 22nd, 2018Committee meeting

Chief Superintendent Scott Doran