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Information & Ethics committee  I think it's challenging to know what anyone expects. I want to be clear that there's a very critical distinction between personal information and de-identified information. For personal information, we're very focused on consent and the privacy implications, but when it comes to de-identification, the de-identification process itself is what protects privacy.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively

Information & Ethics committee  Perhaps you could clarify your question. If you're looking for movement during a particular sporting event, yes, but not in real time. One of the controls that we have on the platform is not to provide any real-time data, because that increases the risk of reidentifiability to something.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you very much for those questions. To ensure that PHAC or others on the platform do not have access to personal information, we went through a very rigorous process. It actually took years to build the Insights platform to be what we wanted it to be. We realized years ago that there could be tremendous value in this de-identified network mobility data.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively

Information & Ethics committee  Absolutely. Thank you for the question. What I meant by that is that we don't actually send data to the government. The way our program works is that we allow data scientists from our partners to come onto our platform, our de-identified data platform, for supervised and guided access.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively

Information & Ethics committee  It is a virtual location, so they're not physically on the premises. It was data scientists coming onto our platform. We provide guided, supervised access to our platform, but it is virtual.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I can certainly take that away and we can share sample reports of what the data would look like.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively

Information & Ethics committee  It might be more relevant for me to say, actually, what they weren't able to see. That would be any information about any identifiable individual. The way the platform works is more query-based. It's not as though they go on and see a bunch of data. What they're able to do is develop queries and get back information and insights drawn from that de-identified data.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you for the opportunity to provide this committee and Canadians with the facts about our Data for Good program. Telus launched Data for Good in April 2020 because we believed, as we still do, that our company's responsible use of data can play an impactful role in making more evidence-based and informed decisions.

February 17th, 2022Committee meeting

Pamela Snively