Information & Ethics committee  We have data centre infrastructure all over the world. We enabled the customer—in this case, ArriveCAN—to do the whole project within Canada. In terms of what was ultimately decided, that would be up to the Government of Canada to determine where it put its data. The customer has full control over how they operationalize in the cloud.

Information & Ethics committee  It wouldn't be a mystery as to what the Government of Canada chose. It would be up to the Government of Canada to give you that information, but it is enabled to exist completely in Canada.

Information & Ethics committee  I am, for AWS, yes.

Information & Ethics committee  That question was asked earlier. I don't know the total dollar value of Government of Canada contracts.

Information & Ethics committee  I don't know. I honestly don't know. I would be willing to work with our.... First of all, it would be something the customer would need to provide. It's not something we can provide—

Information & Ethics committee  That's correct, but I'm not the director of sales.

Information & Ethics committee  That [Technical difficulty—Editor] my department within the organization.

Information & Ethics committee  I don't know that number. We would defer to the customer to provide that information. We wouldn't disclose customer information—

Information & Ethics committee  That specific amount is related specifically to ArriveCAN.

Information & Ethics committee  Our services are not contracted to a specific individual or specific—

Information & Ethics committee  I'm not sure, but I could speculate. I understand that it can be a challenge for some people to adapt to new technology and accessing technology if they're not accustomed to it. I appreciate that. I have parents, too, so I appreciate the challenge for them. I also think it was a really stressful time to try to travel, in addition to navigating a new app, testing requirements and health concerns and anxieties.

Information & Ethics committee  I don't think I could be so presumptuous. Thank you.

Information & Ethics committee  Within the cloud framework agreement there are eight other companies that participate as organizations offering cloud services to the Government of Canada. I'm not sure if I can reel all of them off by heart, but they include Google, Microsoft, ThinkOn, ServiceNow, Oracle, IBM and companies like that.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  There are a couple of different ways of looking at or considering that. One is looking at the broader cloud environment, in which we secure the cloud itself. There's also the physical security of our data centres. We manage the physical security of those sites and ensure that they're not at risk of natural disasters, that they have access to reliable energy, that they are not on a flood plain, and things like that.