Industry committee  It's like saying that my bucket has 25 holes in it and that's better than 30 holes, or if we get rid of 20 of the holes, then we'll only have 10 left. I think the nature of the digital economy and the knowledge economy is that it's non-linear in its harms from imperfection. It takes a small hole to drive a truck through, so you need relative completeness or somebody will escape through a small hatch.

Industry committee  That's correct. Absolutely.

Industry committee  Not at all. I have a bit of an advantage over everyone here in that I was in the small meeting where then Minister Bains and then deputy minister Knubley presented the original Bill C-11. They said that they were approaching this as some kind of balance, and I said, “Who concocted this concept of a trade-off between the two?”

Industry committee  Absolutely.

Industry committee  No, it doesn't—and it should, because when you make a decision, you affect those around you, who are affected by the nature of the digital footprint that we collectively leave. Also, if you opt out but are part of a group that has agreed to these things, you are profiled in that, even though you have pulled yourself out of it.

Industry committee  Sure. That's the root of the contention between the EU and the U.S.—that you must have a sufficiency realm that the data is going to that maintains the European threshold or else they don't allow the data to be transferred. That's been the tremendous contention of the Europeans in standing up for European citizens.

Industry committee  Thank you for that question. A fundamental right should be inalienable, not balanced. In Europe, where you have the ability...it's the very narrowest of special circumstances, but this idea that it's some kind of balanced proportionality does not make it fundamental and does not make it inalienable.

Industry committee  Chairman Lightbound and honourable members, thank you for the opportunity to share my views on Bill C-27, legislation that will have profound consequences on Canada's economic prosperity, freedom, democracy, consumer protection and child well-being. The Digital Charter Implementation Act prioritizes the interests of large data monopolies and their ecosystem of traffickers.