Information & Ethics committee  Yes, he's not on the board of directors.

Information & Ethics committee  I think I.... Are you referring to the application?

Information & Ethics committee  On the declaration of the project that I worked on, that NRStor represented—it was 18 months before—I proactively disclosed my role as CEO of NRStor to the government during the vetting, to the minister, to the department and to SDTC. I also went to the Ethics Commissioner, because I wanted to be clear that this was something that would be comfortable for me to do.

Information & Ethics committee  I'll tell you, I got a call, I think, on February 3—

Information & Ethics committee  I'm a member of the governance committee, but I certainly was not involved in any discussion on this issue with the governance committee.

Information & Ethics committee  Absolutely. I was asked not to attend. The special committee was struck—

Information & Ethics committee  There are. I think Ms. Urie can explain how it works.

Information & Ethics committee  I did not.

Information & Ethics committee  It's NRStor.

Information & Ethics committee  Honourable member, at the time of the board decision on those COVID payments.... You'll recall it was March 2020. It was very difficult. We were very afraid that we were going to lose the investments that we had made and the jobs, so the board sought—

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I am.

Information & Ethics committee  Do you want to start the...? Are you okay?

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, it is.

Information & Ethics committee  I want to make one thing very clear, honourable member. Contrary to erroneous reports and allegations, no project that I have an interest in has applied for funding while I've been chair of SDTC.

Information & Ethics committee  It was 18 months before.