Canada-China Relations committee  No. Nor were they dismissed at the moment of my resignation. I think I found out about it, probably, when most people did—multiple years after.

Canada-China Relations committee  The basis of my concern wasn't the scientist within the NML. The basis of my concern was actually the recipient laboratory. I had the privilege over the course of my five-year term at the NML to co-chair the global health security action group laboratory network. That was a G7-plus-Mexico network.

Canada-China Relations committee  They are, for the most part. Not all of them have active, functional level 4 labs.

Canada-China Relations committee  These were the public health laboratories. There's a similar network for the animal health category 4 laboratories.

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes.

Canada-China Relations committee  Good evening. Mr. Chair, I really appreciate the invitation to meet with the committee this evening. I'm quite hopeful to share our perspective and to help the committee in their goal to advance the management of this interface between national security and scientific research.