Fisheries committee  Absolutely, but I think we have opportunities in our existing traditional farming methods that we haven't taken advantage of, that are sustainable and responsible, that we can quickly move forward on so that we can make up some of the loss that we've experienced, and at the same time not give up on research and continued efforts into other technology.

Fisheries committee  I absolutely agree that food security is a key issue. Where we need to work in partnership with government is to find that regulatory and legislative reform. Industry has the money to invest. Industry will invest in new technology. So I guess in answer to your question about whether it's government's responsibility, in partnership we have a responsibility, but it is not industry that's asking government for money.

Fisheries committee  In the world? You've got me there.

Fisheries committee  Exactly.

Fisheries committee  That's an interesting question.

Fisheries committee  I'm happy to be here.

Fisheries committee  It's unfortunate, but that ends up being the case.

Fisheries committee  It's a real opportunity for aquaculture. Unfortunately we know the wild fishery is not going to increase, it's going to stay level at best.

Fisheries committee  There's always going to be a mix of production systems within our industry, and so I think growth can come at all levels. We've always been very encouraging of continuing to do research and development, so we'd support any kind of additional work in terms of centres of excellence.

Fisheries committee  That's right.

Fisheries committee  You're absolutely right that the price paid to the grower, and even to the retailer, hasn't changed very much when it comes to mussels, so it's a very wonderful product for the price. It's huge value, so I agree it probably should be higher.

Fisheries committee  One of the first requirements—and I'm talking about industry here—is that collectively they all have to be on the same page.

Fisheries committee  You can't have somebody increase the price and somebody else not support that. So industry has to be collaborative and cooperative, and agree that this is what they want to do. We haven't seen that yet. The demand is strong, and I agree that it would be much more viable for the industry if that price could come up, but everybody has to agree to it, and that's challenging.

Fisheries committee  That's right.

Fisheries committee  Again, it's hard to know what each company's marketing decisions are going to be. But particularly for those already in the EU market—and in this case, Northern Divine is—it would make sense for them to develop those markets to a larger degree, because then it starts to really be....