Natural Resources committee  Before I pass it on to Mr. Jammal, there are two quantities, if you like. That's why I think people are misunderstanding the comparison. There is the weight and there's the activity. The weight of the total radioactivity material inside a steam generator is about four grams, and it's diffused right through the whole piping.

Natural Resources committee  No one has, to my knowledge.

Natural Resources committee  No, we are talking about a different type of waste. I would ask Mr. Jammal to provide more detail on this.

Natural Resources committee  The people against this project are the same ones who are against uranium and Gentilly-2. They have always opposed the nuclear industry. Safety has nothing to do with it. It is really an issue of opposition to the nuclear industry. It is a genuine challenge.

Natural Resources committee  It could be. It's hypothetical. But I can tell you that the CEA Agency itself does not believe this requires their type of EA. In fact they deferred it to us and said that as a responsible authority we should do the environmental review, which is equivalent to the environmental assessment.

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely. There have been quite a few, not only this but also on the U.S. side. If memory serves, the U.S. shipped steam generators on a barge. All kinds of materials are being shipped that are at a much more radioactive level than these particular steam generators. I don't know, Mr.

Natural Resources committee  Okay, then I will take it. One is using heavy water and the other one is using light water. Within 15 seconds, light water is thus pure water, whereas heavy water is—how do I explain it—deuterium.

Natural Resources committee  Yes.

Natural Resources committee  I have to be blunt. In my opinion, this is not about safety anymore; this is about anti-nuclear. There is a professional anti-nuclear organization that is preying off the fear of nuclear. Let's be realistic; they interfere. They signed--

Natural Resources committee  They all signed an almost identical petition, not written by them, but by some other people who scared the hell out of them about the possible doomsday scenario of an incredible kind of accident. Our conclusions are that this is a safe activity. I can tell you that when we read some of those petitions, some of the statements about poisoning the Great Lakes water were outrageous.

Natural Resources committee  That is correct.

Natural Resources committee  Correct.

Natural Resources committee  Right.

Natural Resources committee  We haven't shipped this particular steam generator, but we are shipping practically on a weekly basis, from OPG to Bruce Power, all kinds of low-level waste. We recycle things from when we dismantled the heavy water plant in Bruce, when we dismantled the white shell material—

Natural Resources committee  We've never sent a steam generator before.