Fisheries committee  If I can respond to that, the answer is that we're not asking for a change. What we've said is that this is the practice that's been in place, the expectation that's been in place all along, so we don't see a change. What's changed is the increased use of tubbing. That means we n

Fisheries committee  I would say that what Nicole said is that the use of tubbing was very uncommon and there are other ways that the prawns are kept either alive or frozen, such as finger packed and frozen, that are easily and readily available. Those are very easy to inspect. It's just the tubbing

Fisheries committee  We do have an interim protocol in place that was developed by industry. Using that, we can discuss practices, going forward, and there—

Fisheries committee  No, it's not the status quo. They came up with a protocol to respond to the concerns, and we agreed that it was acceptable, so to me—

Fisheries committee  First of all, to the committee, we are doing our best to respond to your questions. I am sensing a lot of frustration and concern. The issue around tubbing is about products being readily available. That regulation is across the board, so it's not just related to prawns. It appl

Fisheries committee  The question makes the premise that tubbing is causing a conservation concern, and that's not the case. It's not the intention, and it's not the nature of our concern—

Fisheries committee  There have been no regulatory changes made. These regulations have been in place since 1993. When inspection of their product is requested, the fishermen are compliant. Nicole can speak to that more specifically. This isn't a question about whether people are resisting the enfor

Fisheries committee  I'm sorry, but I would have to disagree with the characterization of reinterpreting the rules. The rules have been in place, and we haven't changed them at all.

Fisheries committee  Our concern is whether the product is readily available for inspection. What we're trying to inspect is size.

Fisheries committee  I will turn to Nicole to talk about the stats.

Fisheries committee  I'm sorry; who are you talking about, Mr. Johns?

Fisheries committee  Do you mean Laurie Convey?

Fisheries committee  We do try to bring senior people to these meetings. Neil Davis is the regional director for fisheries management, and I thought it appropriate that he be the witness for this morning.

Fisheries committee  With your permission, I ask Nicole Gallant to respond concerning the enforcement measures.

Fisheries committee  I think that from a sustainability perspective we agree that undersized prawns are something we want to avoid. Certainly there are management measures put in place—other ones, aside from just inspection directly—to avoid those undersized prawns, but there's also an obligation for