Status of Women committee  We had a conference in this building in January, and we had some great speakers on that, and there was also a pension-splitting conference in October. Jack Mintz was speaking there, and David Murrell, from the University of New Brunswick. They're economists. I'm not an economist.

Status of Women committee  Put it in there.

Status of Women committee  Yes.

Status of Women committee  I wish I could give you a better answer. I don't know. I'm in touch with UNICA, in Rome, and they lobbied—Italian women are very feisty—and they had parades, and they got pension benefits. The government has been slow to follow through, but at least they got the theory going. I don't know how it's going to work.

Status of Women committee  I think Michelle and I were talking globally. If we had a caregiving ministry—I don't want to speak for you, but we were talking about it—that focuses on it, we could actually revolutionize a bunch of stuff. And this is me talking, not her. I don't want to speak for her.

Status of Women committee  Thanks. Here we go. Let's roll together a lot of these piecemeal caregiving benefits. We have the $1,200, which is very small; the child tax benefit, which is, unfortunately, not universal and is dependent on household income; and the day care amount, which is $10,000 per child per year.

Status of Women committee  I can do it. Thank you for inviting me here. I'm going to talk about women whose work is unpaid or lowly paid. My focus is on women's unpaid and lowly paid work. When governments survey the economic situation of women, they discover that women have less income than men through most of their adult lives and in retirement are much more likely to be in poverty than are men.