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Procedure and House Affairs committee  No. As I said to you, I'm not going to account for what happened with my predecessors. We know it was not presented to a national security and intelligence adviser until mid-August, for various reasons, and I don't.... That's just because of the reading packages being created.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  At that time, David Morrison was acting in the job.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  No. It arrived in PCO in July.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  In August, it was presented to the acting national security and intelligence adviser.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  In terms of their financing mechanisms, I think that belongs with Elections Canada as opposed to the national security adviser and the security committee.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It has to be actionable, so that something can be done. The nomination process is a distinct problem that has to be examined, and I think we will have to have some significant conversations with the parties. What we have done as a first step is stand up the site process to analyze the by-elections, which is a new measure that we put in place to keep by-elections safe.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That's a really important question. CSIS and CSE, as I said, have significant holdings, not all of which, by a long shot, are released to officials like me. What they do is that over time, using the techniques they need to keep highly secure to protect both the methodology and sometimes individuals, they continue to collect.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, that's a really critical element that needs to be discussed. By being more transparent, you can raise the level of anxiety, but I hope we normalize the kinds of briefings that we have with members of Parliament, whether they are caucus briefings, briefings to all parliamentarians or just individual briefings on intelligence that has been gathered.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Every situation is different. There is no one pattern. The tools used by the RCMP to shut down the police stations, reduce their impact and reduce their credibility are different in every situation and every scenario. There would be value in our ability to arrest people for them, and those investigations are under way by the RCMP.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I can't give you a precise date. In the analysis and the discussion of the information regarding Mr. Chong, it came to light that there was a particular individual. I would have to go look at my notes to give you an exact date.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I would be able to provide you with the date on which it was discussed by me. I can't tell you if it was discussed previously.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think that question is best directed to Global Affairs Canada.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't think I can speak about that in this open forum.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  There are continual investigations by the RCMP into the police stations. We are aware of two in Montreal, and work is being done to ensure that they cease to operate. Unfortunately, they're not police stations. They're often staffed and managed by Canadian citizens, and what we have to do is shut down their activities.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm saying that sometimes the individuals who are working these are unwitting, coerced or forced.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas