Public Accounts committee  No, sir, this is--

Public Accounts committee  This is critical. There are two issues here. You're asking me if I knew who took the order or gave the order. I did not, sir. The reason I didn't bring in--

Public Accounts committee  I was not aware who made the decision to remove Sergeant Frizzell.

Public Accounts committee  You didn't ask me, was I aware of whether he was going to go?

Public Accounts committee  Sir, when I answered the question, I answered it honestly. You asked me who made the decision, and did I know. I did not know whether it was Assistant Commissioner Gork or--

Public Accounts committee  Because it had nothing to do with who took the decision.

Public Accounts committee  It's not misleading to say I was not in charge of the sergeant, and I have repeated three times by now that I did not know which of the two gentlemen, either Inspector Roy or Assistant Commissioner Gork, would have given the order to have him removed.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, if I may make a point, I offered to speculate. When Dave Gork gave me the e-mail and told me who it was, he said, “Barb, who would you have said?”--because you said don't speculate. I would have said that it was Assistant Commissioner Gork who gave it. He said, “Well, I did, but through Paul Roy.”

Public Accounts committee  This was years ago, and I didn't know whether or not I could get my hands on that document. We went back—

Public Accounts committee  I had been told that there was a document. It came to me by e-mail. Mr. Williams, whether or not I could have gotten my hands on that document remains to be seen. In fact, it was retrieved, and it was also attached to the letter. Do you know what wasn't attached to the letter, Mr.

Public Accounts committee  I'm not, sir.

Public Accounts committee  The question was—

Public Accounts committee  Right.

Public Accounts committee  I was aware that Sergeant Frizzell had been ordered back to his home base. I could not and I did not have any document before me to tell you who had signed off on that document. Further along, when you asked me, “Well, are you aware? Do you know who signed off on the document?”

Public Accounts committee  No, I'm answering you, sir.