Afghanistan committee  Well, we didn't have any evidence until we found the shackles, and we also found the whips. You can go to the testimony of MPCC.

Afghanistan committee  Even from January to August—

Afghanistan committee  Who?

Afghanistan committee  You mean Ghafar.

Afghanistan committee  He was transferred. NDS wouldn't accept him, so they transferred him to Kabul.

Afghanistan committee  That's all I know. He was transferred.

Afghanistan committee  First of all, thank you very much for the nice words. No, retired General Hillier did not tell the committee the truth. When a Taliban detainee is detained and is taken to NDS prison, the NDS knows everything about him, because they will ask for the bribe. A dangerous Taliban commander, a dangerous element, can buy his way out of NDS prison.

Afghanistan committee  They went from 10 years old to 90 years old. All of them, even the 90-year-old man, were transferred to NDS.

Afghanistan committee  The explosives test: this is the most ridiculous test I have ever seen. Now, in Afghanistan, as we know, there has been war for 40 years. All the soils are contaminated.

Afghanistan committee  It's anywhere you go. All the soils are contaminated. Farmers work with fertilizers. Fertilizers are used in IEDs as explosives. The farmers work with the fertilizers bare-hand. When I was in Kandahar, they were doing all these explosives tests. I disagreed with them: “You can't use that against people.”

Afghanistan committee  When I was in Afghanistan, I was given a task because two Taliban commanders with 40 fighters were trying to surrender. They did not care about the Afghan government. All they wanted to do was to have a guarantee from ISAF, the Canadian part; the command of Kandahar was in their hands.

Afghanistan committee  Yes, my information was leaked. I have received threatening...death letters from the Taliban. I have written to Peter MacKay and General Natynczyk. They have written me back and they have refused to help me relocate my family. That is it. My family is in great danger.

Afghanistan committee  When I was working for ASIC, before I moved to work for the commander, the problem was that we had some interpreters, LCAs, who did not speak Pashto. That's one of the major problems in Kandahar. Probably some of the transfers happened because of the lack of qualified Pashto-speaking interpreters on the ground.

Afghanistan committee  Yes, and I was involved in the process, because I was the one who would clear them at the gate.

Afghanistan committee  Yes.