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Public Accounts committee  To answer that question, I will add to what the Auditor General just said. The tradition is that, before our heads of mission begin in their position, various senior departmental officials speak to them about this problem, provide information or offer training. The deputy minist

October 3rd, 2017Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Public Accounts committee  Well, I think you've correctly identified that you can't intervene if you don't have the signals in data. I would point out that we're not talking about a complete lack of data or the lack of systems. What the Auditor General pointed out in a number of cases is the lack of soph

October 3rd, 2017Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Public Accounts committee  Absolutely. One thing we've done as a result of this is to institute a new case management tool, which is going to equip us better to do the follow-up on things that are flagged, cases that come to light, anomalies and so on. Bear in mind that we wouldn't even know about those a

October 3rd, 2017Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much, Chair. I want to tell the committee, as evidence of how seriously we take the guidance and direction of the committee, that in my last appearance here, the honourable member for Hamilton Centre told me, “By the way, you might want to think about making the

October 3rd, 2017Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the invitation. We want to thank the Auditor General for the work of his office on this important subject. We acknowledge the findings. We accept the recommendations. We look forward to discussing the steps taken to strengthen fraud risk management in my department.

October 3rd, 2017Committee meeting

Ian Shugart