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Transport committee  Not necessarily.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  But I do believe and understand—and this is part of the ongoing process that we're on right now—that not only is the aircraft being redesigned, I'll say, or that the problem areas deemed to be problematic are being addressed through software changes, a big part of it is a reflection of what we've learned in the training material.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  Before we sign any of those agreements, there is a review. With regard to the case in point, the one we're working on with Brazil right now, it involved a team going to evaluate their systems and processes to see if they are sufficiently equivalent. However, it's not just that; it's also experience.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  In many respects, what we're seeing in the changes to the agreements are in the subordinate procedural documents that define how we interact. It's not just about reducing involvement; it's about improving and refining the process to make it more efficient. I'll give you an example.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  Let me back up a bit and explain what the operational evaluation does for you. At each change to an aircraft design and, in this case, stepping from what we call the NG version, or the previous generation to the Max, the manufacturer will propose a training program that bridges, from the pilot's perspective, the knowledge and awareness they have to operate the aircraft from one model to the next.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  If I may add to that, I think it's important to recognize that “Validation Improvement Roadmap” as a work in progress. I have—I'll be completely honest—stated my concerns with the objective that you just read as it is stated. A big part of my job is not only to ensure that the minimum safety standards are met for everything that I sign off on in Canada but also to make sure that there is a level playing field amongst the various manufacturers.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  Generally speaking, we do what is necessary. The ongoing development of the bilateral agreements is based on a fundamental understanding that we recognize through experience that although we may have differences in interpretation, the net results yield an equivalent level of safety.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  I have no opening remarks prepared. I'm prepared to receive questions.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  I could go over the top three.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull

Transport committee  We'll provide the entire list. The JATR report came out with 12 separate recommendations. Some of them somewhat overlap the others, so I'll attempt to briefly describe them at a high level. The fist one relates to the application of what we call the changed product rule, which is a regulation that deals with how we determine the applicable standards to an aircraft that is changed or modified.

February 25th, 2020Committee meeting

David Turnbull