Industry committee  You can quote him. He said he wanted a tax cut you can see. It's in people's faces all the time, every day. They can see it and they appreciate it, I'm sure. That's what he said. As for the contingency reserve you mentioned, I am much less troubled than I think you probably are.

Industry committee  Okay.

Industry committee  Yes, this is the last point. On oil prices and energy prices, if oil prices go up $10 and they just stay there for the next couple of years, what happens to the Canadian economy? Well, the answer is that if natural gas prices go up proportionately with oil, and if investment gets going in the oil patch, that's very good for the Canadian economy.

Industry committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. It's nice to be back to speak to the committee again. I'm always happy to do what I can. My presentation is really in four different parts. For part of it, I have a bit of data and some charts on the recent performance of the manufacturing industries.