Public Services and Procurement  Currently, travellers can make their customs and immigration declaration using advanced declaration in the ArriveCAN app before flying in to one of Canada's participating airports. This saves a lot of time, up to 30% for some travellers. This brings me to the current state of affairs and issues surrounding the ongoing examination of ArriveCAN and the procurement practices, which, as we know, are fairly complex.

Public Services and Procurement  Speaker, as I have said in the House time and time again, we are happy to see the work the committee is doing. When we issued a contract for the ArriveCAN app, we expected all procurement policies to be followed. The president of the CBSA has confirmed that there are internal audits and investigations happening. The police have been called when necessary.

Public Services and Procurement  Speaker, that type of response proves that the Prime Minister and the NDP-Liberal government are simply not worth the cost. Let me clarify the record: 76% of ArriveCAN contractors performed no work; $11 million went to a two-person basement company for no work; and now top bureaucrats at the CBSA face accusations of lying to committee and even destruction of evidence.

Public Services and Procurement  Speaker, we have faith in the CBSA president, who has already acknowledged that they have launched an internal audit on the current procurement process. We look forward to the OAG report on ArriveCAN next week. I have said time and time again that we are working hard to ensure that when contracts are issued all procurement policies are followed. We look forward to these audits and the AG report, because if we can make further procurement improvements, we will.

Public Services and Procurement  More than two-thirds, 70%, of the subcontractors they said they were going to use did no work on this $54-million government boondoggle. The scandal of the ArriveCAN app had senior government officials lying before a parliamentary committee. Contractors who worked on the ArriveCAN app are under RCMP investigation. We know that, in less than a week's time, the Auditor General will be releasing her findings on the ArriveCAN app.

Government Operations committee  Each party has its own reasons for that, if I understand correctly. Nobody wants to stop the ArriveCAN study; that seems unanimous, too. All we're doing is putting it on hold while the investigations take place. We all want the whole story. We all want to understand what happened and come up with solutions—I feel like I'm repeating myself, it's crazy—to improve processes, particularly procurement processes, and to make sure that no one can take advantage of loopholes, if there are any.

Government Operations committee  This seems to have been rampant around this room over the last five or six months as we've talked about ArriveCAN. It doesn't sound like we're trying to cover anything up. We're actually having open discussions about it and encouraging those discussions because we, too, want to ensure that the activities of government are done appropriately.

Government Operations committee  Jowhari's point about why we are doing this, I think that's abundantly clear. This is about unearthing the truth behind the wasteful spending of the $54-million ArriveCAN app, of which $11 million went to a two-person firm that's currently under RCMP criminal investigation for doing absolutely nothing. It acted as the middleman between the CBSA and the real IT professionals, some of whom legitimately did work and some of whom did nothing and were still paid.

Government Operations committee  We don't all have it, not all the time. We need it now. We also have to take the time. It's not like we only have 10 pages of ArriveCAN documents to read; it's a few thousand pages. I've read 2,000 so far, but I think that's just the tip of the iceberg. That's my opinion. I agree that we should let Mr. Lafleur leave for now and come back to the committee once the investigations are done.

Government Operations committee  Thanks. We are now on ArriveCAN and Mr. Lafleur.... I'm sorry. Give me two seconds.

Government Operations committee  If you recall, on Monday we were deliberating on a motion by Mr. Bachrach, which we're going to resume shortly. Following this, we'll move back to the ArriveCAN study. I want to extend my personal thanks to Mr. Lafleur for coming back, especially on such short notice. I sincerely appreciate it. Thank you very much. After that, we're going to move in camera to discuss the issue I texted a couple of you about, and then we also have a shipbuilding study and some budgets.

Public Services and Procurement  The lesson is as follows: This is a kangaroo court for the government to investigate its own department. Minh Doan, the chief information officer when ArriveCAN was in use, has been accused of deleting key emails, but the investigator reports to the senior officials at the same department that bought ArriveCAN. Will this coalition government hold those in charge accountable, or does it plan to hide the dirt as it usually does?

Government Operations committee  Are you conducting any internal investigation relating to the development of the ArriveCAN application?

Public Services and Procurement  This will also be informed by the internal review that is ongoing with respect to the contract documents associated with ArriveCAN. The CBSA has also suspended its contracts with three companies, including GC Strategies, through a stop-work order from Public Services and Procurement Canada. While investigations are ongoing, it is committed to acting on findings from all audits and reviews to inform the future of contractual arrangements.

Public Services and Procurement  Supposedly there was an ongoing internal investigation within the government into what happened in the context of the ArriveCAN procurement. The investigator in this case is not independent; this is an internal investigation. The so-called investigator reports through the existing chain of command within CBSA.