Citizenship and Immigration committee  He is a Kurd, correct?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Okay. So he would have a conscientious objection to going to serve in north Cypress?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Janzen, you said something about somebody from a Muslim country, I believe from Turkey...?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Since Turkey is invading, and is the military occupant of north Cypress, I would say that he'd probably have a military objection to that, and that's why he's in Canada.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  This is why, sir, and I want to let you know this, I opened it up to others besides just the United States folks. There are others who are conscientious objectors who object to going to any war.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Would the witness be able to tell us what country he was referring to?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, within the department is there any recollection of or any notes on what happened back when the Vietnam War was going on? Did the department at that time have the same agenda as it has right now, saying, “No, we don't want them”, and it was forced on them by the politicians?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, I find that hard to believe. Pre-1976, legislation was not as it is today. There were no education points. There were no points for family in Canada or anything else. So I find that very hard to believe. I think those people applied for refugee status at the time, and we gave it to them.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  A point of order, Mr. Chair.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm just wondering if the department has consent from the applicant to reveal their personal information.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  May I finish, Mr. Chair?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, I have a point of order. I had a motion on the floor that folks who are war resistors should not have any criminal and/or war records, or something along those lines. I'd like to strike out--

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you. I would like to strike out--and certainly you can see if you have unanimous consent: “and/or there has been no criminal or military warrants issued against them.” I would like to take that phrase out, so that it states: The committee recommends that the government immediately implement a program to allow conscientious objectors and their immediate family members (partners and dependents), who have refused or left military service related to the war in Iraq and do not have a criminal record, apply for permanent resident status and remain in Canada; and that the government should immediately cease any removal or deportation actions that may have already commenced against such individuals.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  You've got to move us back in camera. Are we in camera right now or not?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, I would ask that you take us back in camera or I'm going to challenge your ruling. I don't think you can, at the whim of one member, end our in camera proceedings. I don't think so, sir.