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Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's on a timely basis, Mr. Chair, and that we be given copies as soon as the speaker starts speaking.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I agree with Madame Faille. This committee has acted with due diligence. We looked at the legislation that has come through the House, and certainly if we need to work on it, additional meetings could be held. I don't think this is needed. This is pretty much telling grown-up individuals how to act and how to behave and how to move things forward, when this committee has collegially worked together and functioned pretty well.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  But Mr. Chair, wouldn't the mover need unanimous consent in order to move it?

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Chair, I have a point of clarification. Should that be done, then before the amendments are moved, especially in the main estimates, the chair should exercise due caution and not railroad us as has been the practice in the past. I do remember a meeting, sir, when you just sort of railroaded, when there was a motion on the floor.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  [Inaudible--Editor]...if the chair had adjourned, as you're saying, sir, then the main estimates would have fallen off.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, why weren't they moved together?

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, as long as the motion gets to the clerk 48 hours in advance of our meeting, I would say that's sufficient. This is the practice we had in the past. This is the practice that should continue. I don't see why we require any changes.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Chair, in all due respect, I think it would be up to the clerk to make sure that once the clerk does get it, it should be distributed. So once you send it in, if it's in fair time.... If we're sitting here and a motion is passed to the clerk, the clerk has to go back to send that out.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Chair, we never had this in the past. All the motions that were moved were dealt with. I'm not sure where Mr. Komarnicki is getting his information that they were sitting in the basket. As far as I can remember, in this committee we never had that, and I don't see the use of having to say that if they're not moved, they'd be disposed of and not be able to be brought back.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, with due respect, we did vote on this. It's done. Had the parliamentary secretary wanted to bring this up, he should--

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Does the parliamentary secretary want to say that a party person, being a member of the Conservative Party, a member of the party of the NDP, the Bloc, or the Liberals, could come here? In other words, Chair, I can have a member of the party, being my president, walk in here--

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  But that's what you said--a party member.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, party staff member could be.... I think we have to clarify that, be it the research, be it the leader's office, or be it the legislative branch.

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No, sir. If I remember correctly—and we can certainly call up the blues—you were the one who was making a big fuss about it--

November 20th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal