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Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, as I said, it does not take rocket science. We had routine proceedings, and unless there are some big reasons why we need to change any of those routine proceedings--we can give notice and deal with this matter on Tuesday--the agenda that we had is for us to continue on that agenda and the steering committee to come up with a proposed travel plan, as we had set.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Let me be more specific, if I may, Chair. That we adopt the agenda that we had and the steering committee comes up with the plan for us to travel. And as far as routine proceedings are concerned, if there are any changes that we need to make, people can give us notice and we'll discuss them on Tuesday.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  And if there are any difficulties, that we discuss them at the next one—you can give us enough notice—but that we set the agenda to take it to the subcommittee in order for the steering committee to have the aggressive plan that we did. There are people out there waiting.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Komarnicki, I hope it's the signal from the department that the department is serious about the work we were doing, and the steering committee certainly could be something we could discuss today, who's going to be on it, and should you be on it or not as the parliamentary secretary.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  If I can paraphrase, Mr. Chairman, the way we went about it was that should there be any changes to our rules and regulations, the committee would take care of that in our next meeting, and people can give notice of what changes they want to make; that the committee immediately bring back to the agenda what we had before we prorogued, the items that we had; and that the steering committee engage and put an agenda in for us to fulfill those commitments we had before we left and the House prorogued.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, I believe the committee should bring back all the motions that we had at the end and have the steering committee set a new plan on the aggressive travelling plan we had, in order to hear these motions. If I may add, Mr. Chair, to leave any motion or to drop anything of the work that we had done I think will be a slap in the face to the people we were working with, and a travesty.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  If I may, I believe I started as saying that on routine proceedings we should continue as we have, and if there are any difficulties, we can bring them up at the next meeting. That was part of my motion. I did say those words.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Do we have them? Are they available to us?

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Chair, I think we also had another motion about hearing Joe Taylor's.... We had given the department 30 days. Those 30 days are up, and we should have that material in our hands by now.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chair, I would seek unanimous consent that we follow the rules as we had them in the committee in the past, and if there are any new rules that we have to discuss that we should either bring them up today or bring them up at the next meeting. However, since we've lost so much time, as we had an agenda—it was an aggressive agenda, and we lost all that time—I would say that we bring back everything we had before we rose in the summer and prorogued and that all our motions and all the work we have done should be brought forward again, and for us to have the steering committee come up with the agenda we had and to re-engage this committee so we can go on with our work.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Do you want a seconder to that motion?

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No, for the motion for the vice-chair.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'll second that, Mr. Clerk.

November 15th, 2007Committee meeting

Jim KarygiannisLiberal