Science and Research committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair, for the question. CSIS does not have enforcement powers. We do not have those powers ourselves. Sometimes when you have a discussion with CSIS and you are told about a number of elements in how your research or collaboration could be creating a risk to na

Science and Research committee  I think I said that we need to put it in overdrive.

Science and Research committee  Mr. Chair, I have a level of awareness about the transaction, but not enough detail to speak specifically to it. I think we have to be careful not to look at a specific activity and determine that it is nefarious in and of itself, but I would not have enough details to share with

Science and Research committee  Mr. Chair, I believe that I have not said that. What I have said, however, to a previous question, is that we are very concerned about organizations that are subject to the legislation of the PRC, and that, if and when forced to do so, will be able to share and will be acting on

Science and Research committee  Yes, Mr. Chair. I would agree with that.

Science and Research committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. There are two aspects to your question. Although no new documents have been published, the way in which national security issues are managed is constantly evolving. The most recent example is the Prime Minister's announcement concerning the National Securi

Science and Research committee  Mr. Chair, I think what is important here is the behaviour of the people. Right now, we have seen a change in behaviour. Everybody on the granting councils and in universities wants to work together. Everybody understands the threat, and if you develop an ecosystem of complianc

Science and Research committee  Shawn, do you want to take this question?

Science and Research committee  Mr. Chair, thank you for the question. I will focus my comments on a national security point of view. I would say that what we have seen is a fairly significant change in the last four or five years. It's not just from an intelligence point of view and with us sharing more, but

Science and Research committee  I think we are in a world where some of what matters—the information and the data—resides in government hands, but most of it does not. With the way the technologies are evolving and the way the research is evolving, what we need is.... Even if you were able to build a Fort Knox

Science and Research committee  Mr. Chair, can we add one point, please?

Science and Research committee  I can add quickly that yes, Russia is, of course, of concern, It is less so in terms of sucking up all of the information the way the PRC does, but it is much more specifically a concern for technology that is right now under sanctions. They're trying to go around sanctions to ge

Science and Research committee  I think that Minister Champagne was here earlier in the week to explain, so I would not want to put words in his mouth. I figure the minister's testimony is on the record. On the second part of your question, sir, I think that it is very important that we identify risks, both in

Science and Research committee  This is, I think, the crux of the issue here. The PRC has been very transparent in its approach. It has put in place new legislation that forces any company, any organization and any person of Chinese origin to collaborate with the intelligence service. In the case of a company l

Science and Research committee  When we look at the way the theft of intellectual property through state-sponsored activity occurs, we realize we need to address all aspects of the ecosystem, to use your word. One thing CSIS has been doing is talking about this issue more publicly. I welcome the work of this c