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Information & Ethics committee Again, for every investigation, we follow the evidence. If there's evidence that is given to us, or leads, we'll follow up on those, but everything that's given to us, we have to be able to use it in a court of law.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee It was based on the final report that I received, and knowing the professionalism of our folks at sensitive and international investigations. I'm comfortable to say that we did everything we could to gain access to as much information as possible within the confines of the regulations.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee As Mr. Pincince said earlier, after targeting the two potential charges, we needed to find certain elements of information before charges could be laid. In any investigation, we want to obtain information that will enable us to establish that the conditions defining the offence have been met.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee I would have to ask Mr. Pincince. I wasn't getting ready for the Aga Khan file. I'm not as familiar with the Aga Khan file as I am with the Jody Wilson-Raybould file.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee Again, Mr. Chair, I'm not in a position to speak to all the evidence we had or didn't have. It would warrant a follow-up on that file and coming back to this committee to explain what we had in the file and the reasons we didn't lay any charges. However, I'm not in a position right now to say what evidence we had that came to the point that we didn't lay any charges.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee I didn't catch the last part of the tweet.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee I mentioned earlier that, as with any criminal investigations we have, we sometimes close files and if there's information that comes up a year, two years or three years down the road and we're still within that limitation period, then yes, we reopen the file and look at the evidence or the information that's given to us.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee Those are the parameters we deal with. The team itself had requested additional information and it was refused. As I said, those are the parameters we operate in. I could say there's something similar when we navigate in the national security space with information that we can use and can't use.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee We didn't have sufficient information to even entertain to go to a production order or even a search warrant.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee There are a couple of things there. Sensitive and international investigations wrapped everything up in the spring of 2021. There was a change of management at several levels. That's on us. We looked into it and corrected that. There are probably 10 months there and it could have been done in a shorter time.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee I was deputy commissioner of federal policing. There would be a program manager reporting to me, and then the team would be reporting into three different levels before it would get to me.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee It's not a delay decision. The change of resources within the organization made it so that when it got to me, I presented it to the commissioner and then forwarded it.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee Ultimately, I rely on the subject matter experts from the unit. I just wanted to go back to one comment, Mr. Chair. At no time did we brief the minister or the PM or any politically appointed individual on this file. To even suggest that this was delayed.... They didn't even know what stage we were at with the investigation delay because of elections.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee Ultimately, we would sit down and have a discussion with the Crown prosecutor assigned to the file. Within the team here, I would be sitting down with our folks and be guided by our subject matter experts.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme
Information & Ethics committee I am the commissioner now.
February 27th, 2024Committee meeting
Commr Michael Duheme