Information & Ethics committee  That's correct.

Information & Ethics committee  That's it.

Information & Ethics committee  It could be done in the same way as with the Office of the Auditor General of Canada: a person would be appointed by the House of Commons after being approved by all members of Parliament. That person would report to the House of Commons. The purpose of the investigation office would be to restore the integrity that our democratic system needs, whether in the eyes of our international allies or of our fellow Canadians.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, the challenge is going to be huge. Artificial intelligence is going to enable a country that wants to go on the offensive and engage in interference to get much more information and to much more easily identify the targets to attack in this country.

Information & Ethics committee  I could try to put it together.

Information & Ethics committee  No, I'm not.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, but I don't have them with me. Since I was with CSIS, it remained with CSIS.

Information & Ethics committee  Other than the normal briefing that has been provided at various times over the last 30 years—all the senior command, all the chain of command, have spoken to various governments at one point or another—no, I don't have it. It was regular briefings given according to the seriousness of what we had discovered at that period of time.

Information & Ethics committee  Over the last 30 years or the recent...?

Information & Ethics committee  Well, over the years we have seen similar ridings constantly being targeted, particularly where there was a great number of Chinese Canadian residents. These were the hunting grounds of the consular office. The work is done by consular officers most of the time, and like I said, we have a certain number, but they were all the time the same ones targeted.

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, members of the committee, for giving me the opportunity to tell you my thoughts and analyses, based on over 30 years of work, research, investigations and analyses on the activities of the Chinese intelligence services in Canada. I did that work as a counter-espionage officer, and as a security consultant in the private and academic sectors.