Citizenship and Immigration committee  He would have gone to the advisory committee of the minister.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm told it was done, but I don't remember when. In 1992-93, it probably was done. But since 1992-93, we haven't gone to the newspapers because the website was being used and we were getting sufficient candidates. And it is expensive. But, at the same time, we just did it, and I think it's the best way to do it.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  He would not have gone through the present process.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Can someone give me the date? He would have been appointed under the advisory committee to the minister, which was the system we--the government--put in place in 1995-96. I say “we” because I was executive director of the same institution at that time.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's very serious. And not only serious--one case is too many.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes. I may have misled you. I'll clarify. There are not two complaint processes. There's just the one. It's a protocol, and we've just circulated the protocol. What I was talking about is that the protocol talks about an informal stage. You may not need to build the big story, and it may be that just an interview will do it.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  In the case of the present merit of 2004 that I described, the person had been with the board before then, and he was renewed before 2004. He was renewed prior to my arrival. In fairness, though, you should know that with this new process with the nine competencies, I also asked that every member be re-evaluated against those nine competencies, which is not a very popular thing to do.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  All the existing members were re-evaluated against the same nine competencies that we use when we recruit, and he was in there.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  He was in the second exercise.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  He would have been a Governor in Council appointee in 2000.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It was in 2000.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes. Again, I am going to make the distinction. There has been a recruitment process involving the nine competencies since 2004. All the members were evaluated against those nine competencies. They were re-tested. So he would have been re-tested in the second, but not using the same test used when he entered.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  There was not an outside review.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It was an internal review.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  They're different circumstances, and I don't second-guess the past. I prefer that we have an independent....