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Information & Ethics committee  Were the three companies identified yesterday as having done fraudulent billing involved in ArriveCAN?

March 21st, 2024Committee meeting

Michael BarrettConservative

Human Resources committee  It cost $60 million, but the government's record was so bad, the AG said it was impossible to determine the real cost of the app. The procurement watchdog found that 76% of subcontractors on ArriveCAN did no actual work, and the two—

March 21st, 2024Committee meeting

Michelle FerreriConservative

Human Resources committee  He said, “we believe the goal of the app is to replace officers.” Do you agree with Mr. Weber that the goal of the $60-million ArriveCAN app was designed to replace officers?

March 21st, 2024Committee meeting

Tracy GrayConservative

Human Resources committee  Thank you. Mr. Weber from your board of directors also said at that meeting: Once the ArriveCAN app came in, members brought concerns forward to the union, which we tried to bring to the employer. Really, there seemed to be no willingness to take our input. Had our members been consulted early on, I think a great deal of what happened would not have happened.

March 21st, 2024Committee meeting

Tracy GrayConservative

Human Resources committee  Any time you don't consult when union members are involved in that project, it's going to be a disaster, just like ArriveCAN and the Phoenix pay system.

March 21st, 2024Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Public Safety committee  To conclude, I want to hear your comments on the Canada Border Services Agency. Your government's latest scandal involves the ArriveCAN application. Some people have proposed simply putting the agency under trusteeship. I'd like to know what you think. Is it the Canada Border Services Agency that is at fault, or is it your government's unfortunate habit of handing everything over to subcontractors?

March 21st, 2024Committee meeting

Kristina MichaudBloc

Public Safety committee  The circumstances surrounding the ArriveCAN application are worrying. Again, I share the concern of our colleagues and Canadians about the use of public funds. As you know, investigations are ongoing. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police is seized of certain matters.

March 21st, 2024Committee meeting

Dominic LeBlancLiberal

Public Accounts committee  He is. Okay. You got $7.9 million for ArriveCAN alone, even though, as you've testified, you didn't do any actual work on the app. How many indigenous Canadians, besides you two, benefited from that big, fat cheque the government wrote Dalian for ArriveCAN?

March 19th, 2024Committee meeting

Garnett GenuisConservative

Public Accounts committee  In my opinion anyway, Dalian has been a very good success story up until recently with all of this hype about me being an employee prior to the ArriveCAN days and during ArriveCAN. This is what PSAB actually does for us. It allows us to be able to be a part of the solution with the government as far as indigenous companies are concerned and to learn about how to interact with the government through contracting, through procurement and through staffing and all of the other aspects that go along with that, so absolutely, yes.

March 19th, 2024Committee meeting

David Yeo

Public Accounts committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's good to be here once again. Mr. Yeo, I'd like to go back to ArriveCAN. Can you kindly tell me how the contract for ArriveCAN came to Dalian?

March 19th, 2024Committee meeting

Majid JowhariLiberal

Public Accounts committee  All right, and then going back to when you did decide to become a member of Parliament, I'd like to hear why you decided that, because, at the time, you were operating Dalian, and you had contracts with DND that were involved in the ArriveCAN, and, as other colleagues have pointed out, it's hard to believe that you did not know that Dalian was working on ArriveCAN. Why did you decide to become a member of Parliament to run as a candidate?

March 19th, 2024Committee meeting

Brenda ShanahanLiberal

Public Accounts committee  From my side of it, I had no visibility into a low-level contract that was with staff augmentation—a contract with CBSA—and the work that was going on for ArriveCAN. We were doing much more work than just ArriveCAN, so I had no visibility at the time.

March 19th, 2024Committee meeting

David Yeo

Public Accounts committee  Most of the time it ranges between 12% and 20%, and in this case for the ArriveCAN aspect—that $91 million wasn't ArriveCAN, by the way—it was 18.2% from what my staff told me.

March 19th, 2024Committee meeting

David Yeo

Public Accounts committee  From what I understand, that went through a staff augmentation contract at the CBSA, so it wasn't actually an ArriveCAN app, it was a directorate or a department level standing offer through TBIPS, or, in this case, BASD. From my understanding, that's the staff augmentation contract that was used to facilitate this.

March 19th, 2024Committee meeting

David Yeo

Government Operations committee  Chair. This question goes directly to the clerk of the committee. As we are talking about ArriveCAN, I would like to get confirmation from the clerk of the committee about all of the documents Mr. Kristian Firth, who is the CEO for GC Strategies has provided to the committee. Has he provided all the documents he was supposed to provide to the committee through you?

March 20th, 2024Committee meeting

Majid JowhariLiberal