National Defence committee  Thanks. Mr. Dryden, you're touching on the essential politics of the issues, obviously, and in fact it's not so much about the rules of engagement, it's really about what the intent of governments was when they signed up to the Security Council resolution. I think Mr. Harris asked a variation on the same question.

National Defence committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll start off, if you want to take it from the operational, Admiral. What's interesting, obviously, about this whole situation is that the Arab League and the African Union and the secretary general of the Organization of the Islamic Conference all have called for action through the United Nations.

National Defence committee  I'm not aware if the Qataris are actually alongside anyone at the moment. Does anyone know?

National Defence committee  I think I would make the same point.

National Defence committee  At the risk of saying what Mr. Harris thought I would say, I'll say that really is a DFAIT lead. In terms of getting Canadians and other nationals out, as the admiral reported, those who want to go are out. So I think we feel pretty confident. As you'll appreciate, the situation on the ground is very difficult at the moment.

Afghanistan committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have an attrition rate for the Afghan National Army of 1.6% monthly, and for the Afghan National Police, 1.2% monthly. Clearly, the issues of attrition and retention both have to do with the broader governance challenges in Afghanistan. There's no question that it's costly and takes time.