Declaration of Emergency committee  We had to observe the situation and see whether the police forces were able to manage it with the laws available to them, whether it was the Department of Transport or the police forces.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Since I live in the region, I was following the situation closely. What I saw from watching television was that the Ottawa Police Service was having trouble enforcing even municipal or provincial laws, including laws on...

Declaration of Emergency committee  I'm talking about the Motor Vehicles Act and the Highway Traffic Act, in particular.

Declaration of Emergency committee  We were receiving information every day from colleagues of Ms. Lucki and other people. So the government was able to determine whether or not the work was enough to effectively manage the situation.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I can't refer you to precise provisions of provincial laws. However, it was clear, from what we were seeing, that the emergency was a problem. Things were continuing to happen every weekend and problems were on the rise. The police were having trouble moving the trucks and keeping order in Ottawa and Windsor, for example.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I didn't see the plan. I was told there was one. I know the plan was being worked on with the RCMP.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Personally, I didn't see the plan.

Declaration of Emergency committee  In their testimony, which has already been heard, Ms. Lucki and Mr. Duheme said they had sent reinforcements to Ottawa. I think there were police coming from more or less everywhere.

Declaration of Emergency committee  It was before and after February 12, but you would have to ask Ms. Lucki about that. I don't have that information, unfortunately.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Personally, I had no discussions with the Ottawa Police Service.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I had discussions with the RCMP, but not with other police forces.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I think you already have the answer to that question that Ms. Lucki gave.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Ms. Lucki didn't ask me the question. The fact is that under the Act, it is the Governor in Council, not Ms. Lucki, who has to make that request and make that decision.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Yes, that's right.

Declaration of Emergency committee  First, there was no seizure, because there was no transfer of ownership. No one took someone's account and gave it to someone else.