Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, precisely.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, it is when they haven't accumulated the minimum number required. I will let the Chief Financial Officer answer that, since he is more comfortable with figures than I am.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It's a reference document for members.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  So you are referring to the increase of $4 million.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  No, it will not be recurring every year. Furthermore, there will be reductions resulting from the strategic review that we undertook and that members were told about. That isn't reflected in the main estimates, but it will appear in the supplementary estimates and the main estimates for the next three fiscal years.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We don't have that document.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  On page 2 of which document? Forgive me, but I'm not sure which document you're referring to?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I believe so, Mr. Chair. When it comes to approaching the reductions strategically, we plan to look at methods and practices that may be outdated. For instance, we are interested in using technology in a more strategic way, one that would enable us to provide members with the same level of service or better, without requiring the involvement of further human resources for a transaction.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We don't have that, Mr. Chairman, but we can certainly make that available in a written response at a later date.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Mr. Chair, I'd like to thank the members for their suggestions and observations and their kind remarks.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Perhaps, Mr. Chairman, if I may, through you to Mr. Lukiwski, from what I've heard today, I can sense there's a certain frustration on the part of members with the tangled, labyrinthine web of security forces, security directives, and so forth. Perhaps I can undertake for the committee to review with the sergeant and the director of security the specific practical arrangements surrounding those limited number of checkpoints to see what we can do, either using the security forces or in some other way, to prevent this particular Groundhog Day from recurring.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm promising to try.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  As I understand it, Mr. Chairman, the barrier at the top of the steps is there not only to keep pedestrians out, but the expectation is, as well, that if there are demonstrations or that kind of thing, there's an actual barrier. But as the sergeant was saying, once the dignitary has left, there's a little door that can open in that where people ought to be able to go through.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  And did they still sent you down the east way?