Transport committee  All I can say is I don't know where you get that impression. If you're a shipper and you call a railway and ask for an ancillary service, you will get told what that costs.

Transport committee  Well, that depends on the nature of the contract you signed with the individual carrier. It's very similar to any other commercial contract. If you pay a little more, you get a different kind of service.

Transport committee  Not to the same degree as the trucking industry, but we have for many years been very strict about our security clearance processes and that sort of thing. So in some respects, the standard was there well before the U.S. started to impose it.

Transport committee  We run a very, very strict security process for our employees who are crossing borders.

Transport committee  Certainly, we'll follow up on that.

Transport committee  I'll ask my colleagues, since you're talking about legal costs and they're beyond me.

Transport committee  Sure. Let me start with that. Thank you very much for the question. First, as I said earlier, the border works reasonably well for rail. That being said, there are a number of issues that we very much want to continue to pursue with our U.S. colleagues. There are a number of specific issues on the harmonization of procedures and processes, some of them having to do with operating rules, so we can move trains more efficiently.

Transport committee  I'll ask my colleagues to speak to that, because you're really asking about the terms of contracts, very specifically.

Transport committee  As I said earlier—and obviously I think we're going to end up agreeing to disagree here—from our point of view, it seems to us that if commercial harm is going to be a part of the process in the determination of the recourse, then why the heck wouldn't we just leave the clause alone?

Transport committee  We can do that if that's the committee's will. There's no problem with doing that.

Transport committee  If the chairman is so disposed, we can easily provide that to his office.

Transport committee  I don't have that with me, but I would certainly be happy to go to my colleagues and try to get that data for you.

Transport committee  That's correct, but let me be clear. Publishing rates that are general rates are absolutely no problem. However, we do a lot of confidential commercial contracts with large shippers, and the publishing of those details would be, of course, of great concern not only to us but to our customers.

Transport committee  That's correct. We've said we will participate in that process.

Transport committee  We have tried to do that, and we are doing that, but frankly, it wouldn't hurt to have a bit of a push from third parties. It's difficult sometimes to get shippers to cooperate in some of these things.