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Justice committee  What I had indicated was that 0.6% of those on day parole commit a violent offence during their period of supervision. It's the statutory release group that has the rate of 2.4% for a violent offence while under supervision. The rate for those on full parole is 0.7%.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  For the percentage of people who offend violently while under supervision, yes, 2.4% plus 0.7% plus 0.6%.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  Again, that would not have been factored into our projections. Our projections just dealt with what that would be for the total number of inmates if the legislation came. We didn't look that far.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  That's correct.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  That's where it levels out to--270. No more than 270 would be the projections, unless new legislation comes in and changes it. But it wouldn't be five times 270; it would be 270, 270...because those who are coming in will eventually be going out as well. So in a very quick summary, if you take, on average, a person, for argument's sake, serving a four-year sentence today for a weapons-related offence, and new legislation comes in and makes it seven years, for argument's sake, then the differential is really three years of that.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  We don't have anything that would say one way or the other on that.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  Yes, there is some training that is provided right now. It's necessary to evolve even the training associated with gangs because there are so many differentiations and so many differences between what would normally be seen to be your traditional motorcycle gang versus an aboriginal gang versus an Asian gang versus all these different types.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  Oh, I'm sorry. Of the whole incarcerated population, I don't have the figure with me on those serving time for violent offences.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  For those on day parole, the reconviction rate is 0.6%.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  I would say there is not a direct cost. What you speak to is certainly, without question, the immense increase in gangs in our incarcerated population. Right now we're trying to manage over fifty different types of gangs within our facilities. I think what you speak to really does create some population management difficulties for us in trying to manage those different types of groups.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  As you noted, on conditional release they could be released on a number of types of avenues. For those on day parole, 99% did not reoffend violently; 3.3% ended up with non-violent offences; and 0.6% ended up with violent offences while under supervision. For those on full parole, approximately 99% did not reoffend violently; 3.2% ended with non-violent offences; and 0.7% ended up with violent offences.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  I don't have the totals. I have the maximum. There are nine maximum security facilities. If time permits, I could do one of two things. I could go down the counts for each of the nine. I don't have the totals here broken down like that. Similarly, with the mediums--or I could give you the sheet afterwards.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  Fine then. Not automatically.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  Perhaps I could answer that once you have finished with this part of your question.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller

Justice committee  Yes. Currently, if you look at Nunavut, there is no federal capacity to contain offenders there. As you know, there is an institution on Baffin Island, which is territorially governed. So when inmates receive a federal sentence from Nunavut, they are transported into our federal system.

November 8th, 2006Committee meeting

Ross Toller