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Natural Resources committee In Saskatchewan, the richness of the uranium mine is such that--
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Right. So far I can tell you we have a very good working relationship with the Saskatchewan government, and in fact they're quite happy for us to continue to work with them on this thing.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee We delegate as much as we can.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee If it is very dangerous, there are certain protocols. They specify how people will be informed. If it is very dangerous, there is a protocol for that and it is public. We're talking about an incident such as closing reactors for unforeseen reasons.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Yes, that could happen.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Yes, if there is a radiation leak, it is absolutely necessary to alert everyone, but that doesn't happen.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee All I can say is on my watch over the last five months there have been a couple of significant development reports, or SDRs. An SDR is a document that absolutely has to be tabled in front of the commission and talks about a particular incident. If it's an incident that in any way threatens the environment or the public, there's a protocol for making it public with the community.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee I am not familiar with the details of the protocol, but I know there is one. I could send it to the committee.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Sorry, I'm not familiar with the incident you're talking about. But of the incidents I've been around, we did not have any where a release occurred that threatened either the employees or the environment. All nuclear plants have a protocol for communicating emergency issues to the public.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Well, it's actually an excellent question, which troubled me when I arrived. This particular sector has been somewhat in a sleep mode for the last 30 years in terms of doing new things. Right now all of a sudden there is hyperactivity--an interest in mining, in maybe new builds, in refurbishment--so we had to prioritize internally.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Yes, I've heard the testimony, but I think that the surprise was that the scientists couldn't fix it. That's the surprise.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Right.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee No. Safety was not the driver for discontinuing the MAPLE. Lack of understanding of how it operates was. Again I come back to people believing that science is a slam-dunk--you know, you can do this, and it's no problem. This was never done in that small a configuration with AECL.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Dr. Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee It's always a question of money. It could be refitted but that would be more costly than building new reactors. Furthermore, we decided to build a reactor specifically for the production of isotopes. Refitting the NRUs could be very costly, so we'll see.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Michael Binder
Natural Resources committee Absolutely. Every incident has to be reported within a formal process. It is tabled before the courts and it becomes public.
June 17th, 2008Committee meeting
Michael Binder