Information & Ethics committee  No, I heard it on the radio, on Q107. Obviously my riding association was never going to advertise on Q107, which is one of the local radio stations. Some of the people in the campaign office were listening to it. I'm actually not one of the listeners, but that's the reason I heard it.

Information & Ethics committee  I know they did, yes.

Information & Ethics committee  My understanding is that it probably would have been minus the national campaign.

Information & Ethics committee  First of all, I don't call it laundering. I think it's disgusting to call it laundering.

Information & Ethics committee  It was an in-and-out transaction.

Information & Ethics committee  It is not to circumvent. If you take a look at the Elections Act, and I encourage you to read the act, you'll notice that the Liberal Party under Prime Minister Chrétien changed the rules. They put a greater emphasis on government rebate and individual contributions.