Government Operations committee  They don't form a part of this.

Government Operations committee  Are these members of the Canadian Forces?

Government Operations committee  Just to be clear, these are as found by the PSI Commissioner.

Government Operations committee  Oh, I'm sorry, these are the internal reviews of departments. May I ask you to clarify your question as to what you're...?

Government Operations committee  In some cases, they're unfounded. They look at them and ask whether they are founded. Does this meet the definition of wrongdoing in any shape or form? In many instances, it doesn't. In other instances, what often happens is that it's sent, but in reality it should have been sent through another means, another grievance process that currently exists.

Government Operations committee  So a lot of what comes here is then redirected to other means.

Government Operations committee  It's fairly stable. It goes up and down slightly, but not a lot.

Government Operations committee  In 2007, there were 234.

Government Operations committee  First of all, I have already mentioned that there are three areas in which the wrongdoing can be disclosed. They are the supervisor, the senior officer, or the commissioner's office. This can be done either in writing or in person. I'll turn to Mary Anne soon for the finer details of your question, because you're asking about the exact procedure.

Government Operations committee  Yes, and that is the main concern. First and foremost, we don't have any data that says there are issues with protection of the information. The second thing is that the small organizations, where it would be easy for someone's identity to be found, are exempt from being covered by the creation of senior officers and the creation of a process internally, because it's too delicate, so there is a certain protection that exists at that level.

Government Operations committee  I do. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Members of the committee, thank you for the invitation to appear to discuss the Public Servants Disclosure Protection Act, which came into force on April 15, 2007, replacing the Treasury Board's Policy on the Internal Disclosure of Information Concerning Wrongdoing in the Workplace.

Official Languages committee  We could share the information we collect with you.

Official Languages committee  Of course.

Official Languages committee  Thank you.

Official Languages committee  Very good. I quite enjoyed the experience. Thank you. We truly do want to help the committee. Just ask, and we will provide whatever help we can. We'll be back to share what we have with you. As I mentioned a few times, when we are limited as to the answers we are able to give, I will say so.