Public Accounts committee  I'm not sure it was done electronically. I think the cheque was delivered to the bank. The same cheque we attempted to deliver some weeks earlier was—

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  It wasn't from Millennium.

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry.

Public Accounts committee  Not to my knowledge.... It was confirmed to us by the bank that the funds had been deposited into that account. To my knowledge, there was no response from Millennium.

Public Accounts committee  I did not, but I believe people at the foundation did. They determined who was in charge. I know a letter was also sent informing Millennium...to Millennium's Canadian address. I don't believe we received a response to that letter.

Public Accounts committee  Thank you. Its mandate was to essentially do what we're doing today, which is to provide a four-element program: scholarships, mentorships, fellowships and public interaction programs. We were to provide our scholarships as doctoral scholarships in the social sciences and humanities.

Public Accounts committee  I do indeed, and the foundation responded the next day—I hope, adequately—to the three requests.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, indeed. If you'll allow me, I can read a relatively short email, which was in response to your questions. There's a recital at the beginning to the clerk of the committee. Please find below the information requested: On March 1, 2023, upon the initiative of the President and CEO Pascale Fournier and with the approval of the Board's Executive Committee, the Foundation sent a cheque in the amount of $140,000 to reimburse the donation that had been received by the Foundation in two $70,000 tranches in 2016 and 2017.

Public Accounts committee  Thank you, Chairman. I'll try to stay within that constraint. The Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation is a non-partisan charitable scholarship foundation that was created in 2002 with broad cross-party support in the House of Commons. The first board of directors included Bill Davis, Roy Romanow and Peter Lougheed.

Information & Ethics committee  Not in the least, and by the way, on my watch, we've increased our meetings. I was talking about what it was like back then. On my watch, we've increased the number of meetings and—

Information & Ethics committee  To three a year, and our meetings are far longer than the three hours that they used to be. We do a lot.

Information & Ethics committee  Regrettably, she is not. She has informed me that she would not.

Information & Ethics committee  I can't change your mind if you don't believe me.

Information & Ethics committee  I assure you that I am telling you the truth, but I cannot tell you more than I know.