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Pearson International Airport  The committee will report again and the decision will be made by the other place. Let me remind the hon. member that before the election the Prime Minister made it very clear that we would review the deal. However the maker of the deal decided to sign and went ahead despite the warnings. After we took office the Prime Minister reviewed the deal, found that it was not in the interests of Canadians and it was cancelled.

October 7th, 1994House debate

Alfonso GaglianoLiberal

Social Policy Reform  Why does the Minister of Human Resources Development keep talking about wanting to hear from Canadians when it is clear he only listens to the people he wants to hear?

October 7th, 1994House debate

Diane AblonczyReform

Social Program Reform  We talk about how we can work to disentangle from education. Then the provinces would have clear authority over their educational institutions. These are the kinds of things that we want to propose. It is time for all governments to begin to think about how they can decentralize their bureaucracies, whether they are federal or provincial, and put more power in the hands of people and communities because that is where the real decisions should be made.

October 7th, 1994House debate

Lloyd AxworthyLiberal

Social Program Reform  I am glad that after nine months he is finally able to catch up with the figures. There was a clear declaration in the budget that we were going to hold transfer payments under these programs at the 1993-94 level. As a result we have started to work with the provinces to find ways of more efficiently dealing with the problems of social assistance.

October 7th, 1994House debate

Lloyd AxworthyLiberal

Bloc Quebecois  In it, we learn that the official opposition whip is exhorting the separatists to infiltrate local community service centres, school boards, municipal governments and any other organization or body controlled by so-called federalists. The message is clear-the Bloc cares not a whit about the administration of government and the quality of services delivered to the public. The Bloc is now pushing an out-and-out sovereignist propaganda campaign.

October 7th, 1994House debate

Robert BertrandLiberal

Social Security Programs  On the issue of fiscal parameters, the hon. member should read that section once again. It is in the green paper. It is quite clear. We spoke about it in the last budget. The hon. member knows about the $2.4 billion that we cut from UI. That is in here. The government was elected on a commitment to reach 3 per cent of the GDP deficit reduction target.

October 7th, 1994House debate

Maurizio BevilacquaLiberal

Social Security Programs  It is our responsibility to get people off the welfare rolls and on to the payrolls of our businesses. That is what this debate is all about. It is clear that things are not working. We can sit idly by and not answer to the changes which are occurring all around us, or we can take some tough decisions and engage Canadians in a meaningful debate about the type of social security system they want.

October 7th, 1994House debate

Maurizio BevilacquaLiberal

Social Security Programs  We listen to what they have to say and we have tried to do for them what they have asked. Canadians are being quite clear. They want leadership and they are challenging government to produce real legislation to reform a shockingly wasteful and battered social safety net. We cannot afford to wait. Canada's debt and deficit are lodestones around the necks of Canadian taxpayers.

October 7th, 1994House debate

Jan BrownReform

Social Security Programs  Last year, on November 15, when I took my oath in this House, I did it with my grand-daughter. It is quite clear that I sit as a member in this House because I have faith in young people and children and because I believe Quebec will give them the society they deserve. If my colleagues discussed this reform proposal today, it is precisely because they have faith in young people, and feel a responsibility towards them.

October 6th, 1994House debate

Madeleine Dalphond-GuiralBloc

Social Security Programs  There is nothing in all its 102 pages on job creation and as for the rest, I think my colleague have already described it. It is clear that we in Quebec will soon take charge of our future and say yes to our sovereignty. And the Reform members now present in this House-if we cannot talk about the members who are not here, we can at least talk about those who are in the House.

October 6th, 1994House debate

Benoît TremblayBloc

Social Security Programs  First, they are making a reform because they have to. It is glaringly obvious, how inefficient the federal government is. It is very clear that the action taken by the federal government in occupational training and job development is completely ineffective. This paper explains how disastrous the federal government's performance has been in terms of vocational training.

October 6th, 1994House debate

Benoît TremblayBloc

Social Security Programs  The federal proposal even encourages the provinces to opt out of welfare by giving them "candy" so that they feel compelled to join the federal program. It is very clear, I think, that this is not the way of the future. Only yesterday, three provinces with more than 60 per cent of Canada's population immediately said no to the proposed reform. I think that their position is justified in the light of their responsibility and desire to do the right thing in the future.

October 6th, 1994House debate

Paul CrêteBloc

Financial Administration Act  As I understand it, this bill includes two major points. The first one is the date the budget is tabled. In this case, there is no clear indication that what the hon. member proposes is better than the existing procedure. However, I want to discuss the second point more in detail. The Auditor General report on the reasonableness of the estimated revenues in the preparation of the budget speech.

October 6th, 1994House debate

Ronald J. DuhamelLiberal

Social Security Programs  One head of this monster is increased program spending; the other head is the crushing complex system of taxation. During the last election Canadian taxpayers made it clear that they want politicians with the guts and the vision to lead the way with changes that will benefit them and their children no matter how difficult those changes may be. They can see the two headed monster and want it stopped before it devours their future.

October 6th, 1994House debate

Jim SilyeReform

Social Security Programs  When we read in the Toronto Star that: Top provincial officials flew into Ottawa to be briefed on the implications of Axworthy's social reform plan, but they were not given the dollar figures obtained by the Star and the document makes clear that it is deliberate. Obviously, efforts will have to be made, at the level of the committee responsible for holding hearings across the country to listen to Quebecers and Canadians, to ensure that the people appearing before us have all the relevant information at hand because, as a member of this committee, I had no intention of being a puppet.

October 6th, 1994House debate

Paul CrêteBloc