Justice committee  Mr. Chairperson and distinguished members of the committee, I thank you for this opportunity to provide a presentation on Bill C-22, and the larger issue of child sexual abuse on the Internet. I have had the occasion to review some of the transcripts from the previous meetings, s

Justice committee  It's in my nature. Sorry about that. It's my ten-minute time limit; I'm trying to get it all in.

Justice committee  Thank you. The Canadian Centre for Child Protection is aware that there is no easy single solution to this problem. To engage other private industry groups in this fight, we are working with the RCMP's National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, our strategy partner, to es

Justice committee  Yes, I do. I believe it to be the RCMP. We have been in discussions with Minister Landry there. The reason we're advocating for the role we play is that, as you can see in these reports, we're able to collect important data. In our discussions right now with Nova Scotia, that i

Justice committee  What I can say is that in the research they did they looked at child pornography legislation in the United States. It is federal legislation that mandates that what they call ESPs or electronic service providers, to capture the broader types of people providing Internet services,

Justice committee  To my knowledge, I can't say factually. I do not believe that there is any other country that has that obligation against all citizens, as it exists right now in Manitoba.

Justice committee  That's an important question. We wrestle with this in wanting to facilitate reporting. We are certainly passionate about making more people aware and reporting. The challenge we're running into, even on the provincial side and even in our relationship and partnership with Ontario

Justice committee  I'm certainly not trying to avoid the question. I can't answer legally as to the criminal law powers. I don't have that knowledge.

Justice committee  One of the things we are working on in partnership with the provinces right now is to look at similar legislation that can properly apply within the provincial jurisdiction. We support provincial legislation in addition to this. We advocate for departments of family services to b

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  In terms of my earlier answer, really I can't speak to the powers of the criminal law spectrum and what we can do there. It is important that we expedite and move quickly on this. I think this is good legislation. It is, as you've mentioned, sir, one piece of the puzzle. I do

Justice committee  Just so I am clear on your question, I am understanding that you're asking if I agree that service providers should go to websites and look at the sites and then make sure that their customers are not viewing child pornography. Is this correct?

Justice committee  Yes, we do that right now in Canada—I know it is a lot of information to take in—under Cleanfeed Canada. So we would make this available to Internet service providers, ISPs, on a voluntary basis. Right now we are covering between 80% and 90% of Canadian customers; we are right no

Justice committee  Right, and under Cleanfeed Canada.... There are two pieces to this that are very important to understand. Within Canada, when a Canadian or someone is involved in the making available of child pornography, we use the Criminal Code to take action against those people to be able to

Justice committee  It is possible, however--