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Finance committee Hello. I represent the Canadian Association of Gift Planners. I am accompanied by our Executive Director, Diane MacDonald. We have over 1,000 members. Our expertise is in the area of planned giving and legislation respecting planned giving. I am the Executive Director of the Je
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee The second issue is valuation. By using cash as the king of what happens, that alleviates much of the valuation issues, because it's easy to value cash at the end of the day. I thank you very much for giving me the ability to come here and speak. It's a great honour to be here.
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee We don't have the exact figures. Let's just break it down to see what it really is. It's a 10% added bonus, right? So they would be entitled to the normal credits that they would get. We're talking about a 10% bonus. We're not talking about wealth. For people who've donated more
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee We've tried in our organization and in our sister organizations to bring young people together, to provide them with the tools to actually give. We provide them with some dollars. They have to contribute some and we provide some. We give them an opportunity to make donations and
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee Well, it's a long—
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee The kids are excited about it. They're having fun.
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee They love the program. The parents love the program. Will this mean something 10 years from now? I hope so.
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee When you talk about fraud evaluations, if you saw where they've come from.... In a sense, it's been from tax shelters. It never made sense; the values weren't there. You were valuing air. Here you're not talking about air; you're talking about cash coming in at the end of the da
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee Right. So you get a valuation, which can be difficult, but we're talking about a capital gain exemption based on cash. If you're going to give that capital gain exemption—they don't have to give it, you're not entitled to it automatically—you have five years to cash that asset, a
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee The Canadian Association of Gift Planners is an association of individuals who either work for charities or are allied professionals. They could work for insurance firms, brokerage houses, trying to look at planned giving as a way of...or stimulating planned giving in Canada.
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee There are over a thousand members.
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee Just when you're asking about a potpourri of ideas, I saw in one of the papers that someone put in a proposal that you allow 1% of total revenue for foreign donations. Foreign donations are very difficult today. There used to be a time, going back historically in Canada, that y
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee Look, for Canada's future, I think it has to be the credit system. I like it. We're going backwards in terms of donors, so we have to do something. But they are two different gifts. We talked before about replacing things. There are income gifts and there are capital gifts. Whe
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee That's an income gift. If you're looking at capital, removing people's capital balance sheet gift—
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman
Finance committee I said credit.
February 7th, 2012Committee meeting
Robert Kleinman