Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon. I'm Rowland Dunning, executive director of the Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions, or CALJ for short. CALJ represents provincial liquor authorities in all ten provinces and the three territories. Thank you for the opportunity to sp

Finance committee  I can give you an example from Ontario on how the private ordering system works. They have a program they're rolling out in all of their stores for customers and consumers to order through the private ordering program. Last year alone, I know they had 240 private orders totalling

Finance committee  I don't have a direct answer to that, but I do have someone in the room from Ontario who might have those specific numbers.

Finance committee  Sure. I can do that.

Finance committee  I'm not aware of any trade challenges into the U.S. market. Going back into the eighties, when I used to work at the LCBO and was part of the trade discussions, the EU, for many, many years, seemed to focus a lot more on Canada for some reason. We're a small market compared to th

Finance committee  I'm not quite sure what the question is.

Finance committee  Doing what?

Finance committee  Add it to the bill. I mean—

Finance committee  —the distillers and the brewers, I'm sure—

Finance committee  —are watching these debates. If somehow, out of the bill being passed and whatever happens in the provinces, the market opens up for wine, I'm sure you'll be hearing from Spirits Canada and the brewers of Canada very, very quickly.

Finance committee  Perhaps I can just conclude on it, Mr. Chair.

Finance committee  You can go to any liquor store in Ontario and order any product—spirit, wine, or beer—from any place in Canada. It's available. As I said, we had—

Finance committee  No. That would be a direct sale.

Finance committee  You'd be bypassing the system.

Finance committee  On the board of...?