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Transport committee Good morning, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much to the committee for the opportunity, and thank you very much for your interest in looking at innovative technologies in transportation. I'm pleased to inform the committee that this year the propane industry celebrates its centennia
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One of the main barriers in Canada to having more self-refuelling stations, or a self-refuelling station, is regulatory and standards in nature. If you have a vehicle in Europe, you can pull up to what they call an autogas station in Europe and fill up
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee From the propane perspective, Mr. Chair, I'll have to get back to the member on the exact calculation. There are other people who will have far more of the answer than I, so I'll get back to you. In terms of making the case, it depends where you are. There's not one solution tha
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee Mr. Chair, I have no idea why we're not on the road map either. Part of it may be that someone decided just to go in one direction rather than look at propane. I'm really not sure. The fact of the matter is, and I think you're alluding to what I said earlier, that 83% of the prop
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee The industry could do more research and development. Companies such as Roush, out of Germany, are investing time and money with OEMs such as Ford to advance the use of propane. The fuel injection engine has really allowed for great advancement. When you use propane in a vehicle
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee There are two parts to your question. The first part is about the cost of conversion. The second part is about the fuelling station set-up costs. I'll give you a range for the unit cost for the cost of conversion for propane. With more volume, of course, the cost will drop as y
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee For a propane-powered vehicle, it really depends on your usage. You can recoup your initial investment in less than nine months without too much problem.
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee Let me deal with the last part. Propane is safe. Yes, mechanics will have to be properly trained on conversion, and they should be, absolutely. In terms of individual consumers moving to propane, at the end of the day it really depends on how long they're going to keep the vehic
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee Why not? It probably goes back to the OEMs, and part of the challenge is infrastructure. People are comfortable with gasoline. We have a culture that's comfortable with it. We have auto manufacturers who know it. We have a sophisticated distribution system. We have gas stations
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee Yes, it's a simple process. You take it off the pump, you put it in the part of the car that requires the fuel, and you hold it there. There are built-in valves and mechanisms that shut off the propane when it's full, which for any propane container is no more than 80%.
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee They're essentially filling stations, but a certified individual must do the filling, just as they had to do 35 or 40 years ago.
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee Yes.
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee It's not. I would invite this committee to ask Canada Post here as a witness. They'll tell you directly about those costs.
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee They set those standards under the Canadian Standards Association. It is the same with propane vehicles they bring into Canada. Jurisdiction over the adoption of those regulations is different not only federally but provincially as well. It's a bit of a mishmash of standards acro
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette
Transport committee Propane is not a regulated utility, by and large, so the market dictates the price of the propane.
March 6th, 2012Committee meeting
Jim Facette