Justice committee  Hello. My name is Michel Surprenant, and I am the vice-president of AFPAD, an organization that deals with issues related to persons assassinated or disappeared. My particular interest is sexual predators. Good morning to you all.

Justice committee  No, that's okay.

Justice committee  Which section are you talking about?

Justice committee  I fully disagree with what you said. In a debate, at a given moment… I was speaking with Michel Dunn, who killed his associate. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison, where he did 17 years. He admitted that it took seven years before he admitted his crime. A minimum length of

Justice committee  We are talking about the safety of our children.

Justice committee  It has been proven that sexual predators cannot be cured. As soon as they are released, their only concern will be to find a new victim to satisfy their fantasies.

Justice committee  I heard what you said, and I want to clarify something. Sexual predators do not use firearms, they use ruses. Sexual predators will not commit violent offences during the kidnapping as such. You must also understand that these are life sentences that sexual predators are imposing

Justice committee  I'm sorry, but I didn't fully understand the question.

Justice committee  In the case of sexual predators, the maximum sentence is always what people are most hoping for. If, for example, an eight-year sentence is given, it needs to be eight years of imprisonment, period. If the person is released, the release should be supervised, which might require

Justice committee  Forgive me, but there is something I would like to add. Someone said earlier that the sentence of eight years was always the penalty for kidnapping involving a sexual offence. As the gentleman said, the five-year sentence is a minimum. For kidnapping alone, before a sexual offenc

Justice committee  I want to add something to what Mr. Freeman said. Prevention is very useful, but it doesn't replace deterrence. The two go hand in hand. Measures are needed to deter sexual predators from reoffending. In other words, we have to make life hard for them. At the same time, however,

Justice committee  That is how it sounds to me, as the father of a victim.

Justice committee  That is how you see it. If your primary objective is protecting children, you will understand that a minimum is really the way to go. As already pointed out, judges appreciate that it is just a minimum. Another approach is necessary.

Justice committee  It sounds like you are more concerned about the sexual predator's ability to reoffend.

Justice committee  I don't know why you're dwelling on this. What we are asking for is a minimum, not—