Transport committee  Yes, it will be me.

Transport committee  Good morning. My name is Steve Clark. I'm the director of fleet management for Canada Post Corporation. My responsibilities include managing and maintaining Canada Post's growing fleet of over 8,300 road vehicles, ensuring compliance with all provincial and federal regulations, a

Transport committee  We've actually done more than just propane. We've done a bit of both. Part of that was initially in the piloting phase to try to understand which would operate best. As I mentioned in my presentation, we know there's no magic bullet theory today that's going to say this is the

Transport committee  The cost of the conversion and the return on that invested capital is ultimately dependent upon the total distance you're going to drive your vehicle. The average postal route is 50 kilometres a day. Dependent upon whether we're operating an extremely poor fuel-efficient vehicl

Transport committee  I don't know about major challenges. There were some challenges. We had to do a number of things with site assessments, safety plans, and I guess on training an awful lot of our people to understand and accept what we were doing. But no, I don't think the challenge was insurmou

Transport committee  You're probably exactly right. Today there are a number of different governing bodies issuing regulations in different provinces and municipalities with respect to propane—how it's handled, how it's inspected, the frequency of inspection, and what details are required to fuel o

Transport committee  Correct, just over 8,300 vehicles.

Transport committee  Without adding up the numbers that I gave, about 150, or maybe a little more.

Transport committee  I do.

Transport committee  We've already made a couple of investments, both in CNG and propane refuelling infrastructure. We have infrastructure in Ottawa and London for one of each of those fuels, and we're currently looking at two additional sites in future for propane. The cost difference is about 47% p

Transport committee  I believe that natural gas is larger than propane, but I don't know off the top of my head right now what that difference is. I think they're both comparable. The cost for natural gas refuelling infrastructure is much more costly, though, than it is for propane.

Transport committee  Again, if we look at a Canada Post site that has, say, 200 trucks in it, for fast-fill application, which is what we would need to refill that many trucks every night, it requires multiple compressors to compress the natural gas into a very tight space in a tank. The refuelling i

Transport committee  It's the state of the fuel, that is, its common state.

Transport committee  Yes, with the larger of the ones that we're piloting today.

Transport committee  I don't know if I can say that today, because I don't know that we would fully implement 100% of the Canada Post fleet onto one fuel. I think that would be, maybe, a little bit dangerous to have all of our eggs in one basket like that. Again, because there is no magic bullet answ