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Justice committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Walk With Me Canada was established by a survivor of human trafficking. Walk With Me was created with a commitment to ensuring that survivors have first response care and, secondly, with recognition that survivors should have a voice in developing a coordin

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  Yes, Mr. Chair, I can answer the question. I'll start with an overview, because I don't have the statistical analysis in front of me. It would be significantly heavy, women to men. In fact, I think it's a bit disproportionate that there were 18 labour-trafficked victims in Hami

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  Yes. There are three main ways. We proactively look, for example, in the regions of Peel and Niagara, which have the most exotic dancing places per capita I think in North America, or at least Canada. We actively look in those places. Ms. Nagy, who is our main front-line worker,

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  I think what I have called the reverse onus or the presumption clause will assist. From my limited experience with victims and in my discussions with our three front-line workers, when particularly a trafficked woman is removed from the circumstances and has three months, six mon

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  Yes. One of the main things that is done by several organizations is more education in rural areas for aboriginal people and northern communities. In the Canadian population, in general, it could be the girl next door, and it's not always somebody from Cambodia, Thailand, or Hung

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  Something in the system that gives support.... I know our courts presently have victim services inside the court, but the quick example is a woman who had to go back to Halifax. Our system doesn't provide a social worker or somebody to go with her. She now gets on an airplane by

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  With respect to consecutive sentences, I gave an anecdotal story of what one of the labour slave's position was on that. I think you deter victims from coming away once those stories hit the street or when they're in the newspaper that one or ten.... Unfortunately, or fortunately

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  I'll attempt an answer, Mr. Chair. I don't have with me statistics on whether the criminal justice system, using general deterrence, specific deterrence, retribution, and rehabilitation, the four pillars of the Canadian sentencing principles, works or doesn't work. But at the en

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  I couldn't agree more. By way of analogy, approximately nine years ago in this country, in a civil litigation context, the Supreme Court of Canada set what they said to be the normal rule of thumb for punitive damages at $1 million in a case called Whiten v. Pilot. Recently, a j

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  Yes, Mr. Chair. I listed the four sentencing principles, and they have to be balanced. I think that is specific deterrence and general deterrence, because if that is in the Globe and Mail or the Ottawa Sun, or whatever paper the next potential trafficker reads, it sends a messag

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  We have not been asked.... Let me restate that. There are two cases that I can think of involving people of eastern European descent who were here and who were forced into labour work—one male and one female—in the restaurant business. They were held in the basement of a woman'

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  In the language there's often no differentiation between sex and labour, so I certainly think the bill would affect both equally. What I don't have any information on is whether there is also domestic trafficking in labour of Canadians or permanent residents, for example, from

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  That would be my recommendation, if I were going to add something: that the presumption be the opposite—so I say it's upside down—and that if you are testifying on this list of offences, you can testify by video link or.... It's by a screen, rather than an application. The peopl

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  Concerning the coaching or video testimony, there are tools in place presently to testify from behind a screen, etc. The problem is that these tools are turned upside down. The presumption is that you will face your accuser and that you must get into the witness box, and the onus

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper

Justice committee  Yes. There are certainly independent operators, but there's a fairly organized model out there. You can go on the Internet and actually learn how to do it, if you choose. There's actually a book on the Internet on how to get into the business.

May 1st, 2013Committee meeting

Robert Hooper